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Originally Posted by pokerfan655
What range would you 3 bet here? I mean this has to be a top 8% hand I'd imagine - if villain is going to limp a wide range and call every 3 bet, I would think this is a great hand to 3b esp with how shallow stacks play postflop.
This all comes down to the type of V's here. I don't think you can rely as much on charts and other online tools to assess the best way to approach positions like this when playing against 'Loose and spewy' players like this as this can be very dependent on the game and players involved. Loose and spewy players can be vastly different as well, so it is hard to assess without knowing more about how they handle the later streets and different spots. Do these loose and spewy players splash around and just call down a lot, do they overplay draws, do they stab at pots a lot when they miss or don't have draws, do they have the ability to exploit some of your tendencies, etc.
With that said, I have almost no 3bet range here as I am flatting almost everything. Probably 3! top 2%-3% only. If they are truly 'loose and spewy', they are not folding a lot, so you are not moving them off of a lot of pots, and hence need to make hands to make money as there are not a lot of PLO5 hands that are completely dominated by the top 5%-10% of preflop holdings. Just like the example given, they are most likely not folding 78 with medium flush draw types of hands here and that can be problematic to play against OOP. There is no reason to bloat the pot OOP and get yourself in a lot of flipping situations when your skill level is so much better then theirs. Your edge comes from outplaying them post flop, getting them to commit with inferior draws, and getting them to commit when drawing dead sometimes in my experience, not by bloating the pot OOP and giving them the opportunity to essential flip with only small edges our way.
However, if they try to exploit that preflop strategy, then you definitely have to open up some. That usually gives you more of an advantage as they have more trouble readjusting their game once you make the adjustments to theirs. This is just my experience in the PLO5 games I play in, but again what I see as 'loose and spewy' may be different from what others see.