Hi all,

We call a tighter player’s open from the btn in the sb with AKjT5ds a-high clubs k-high diamonds and we are six ways.

We don’t 3! Because we don’t want it heads up, we want the weaker limpers in. We are $1200 eff.

($200): Q98hhs. We flop the nuts with an ok redraw but no flush draw or pair. We check and action but decent co pots, btn / original raiser calls and it folds to us. We just call. Does anyone just fold? We are probably calling for a chop.

Turn ( $800) 5c. Check, co pots, btn calls, we just ship. Does anyone donk lead? Co and btn are deeper (maybe another $1,000) and co could theoretically raise to force the btn out.

Thanks,
DT

This is not an open, it’s an iso.

I think you played it fine.

I think you played it well.

Regarding your question;

Buttons hand obviously has tons of equity, I think donking pot on turn so CO can rip in buttons face is pro AF, we might even be clean freerolling CO sometimes. So yeah +1 to TRY and deny something like QQ with hearts or similar.

Is it crazy to think the flop is actually close between call/fold with our really weak back-up? I still think it's a call with 6-out redraw to the nuts, especially if CO potting with naked JT often... Definitely not a great spot though as our equity multiway is pretty low if one person has a set and the other has JT+any hearts, per the output below. That would be like absolute worst-case scenario so in reality you're probably much better than 20%, but not a thrilling spot



Jamming turn for value makes some sense, but at these stack sizes, CO can't really price out BTN. If you pot turn $800 ($200 behind) and CO jams for $2000 then BTN has to call $2000 to win a $3800 main pot + $2000 side-pot... the equity math is not so straightforward for BTN because of the main/side pot but he still has odds to call with something like QQ+gutshot or something. So I don't think CO can really force him to fold, but it's still a better line than check/jamming since you get BTN's extra $1000 in the middle with his draws, whereas he might just call the $1000 jam and fold rivers when he misses, saving $1000

Kind of tricky hand - without a flush redraw on the flop it might be ok to fold.

Villain ranges are quite strong, Hero is hoping to be against something like set + nut flush draw and hope villains block each other's outs - but we are against the same straight maybe 50% or more of the time - we don't need to play this spot OOP when it could easily be negative ev.

Turn seems fine as played - alternative line might be something like 20% to 30% donk lead so Hero can shove stacks on safe rivers.

3b pre. This is live poker. People don't think twice before cold-calling 3bs out of position with junk.

Kind of annoying to have to work backwards from the pot size on the flop. So this is $5/10 and he opened to $35 and got 6 callers? Is there any good reason not to include this info rather than make us work it out?

So ok our redraw isn't huge, but we still have one. It's just one bet. I think folding here would be kinda mad. In a multiway pot it's reasonable to expect people to play more honestly so it's not like we're just going to get bluffed every time the board changes, and even when we do get bluffed, it's often going to be for half the pot only anyway.

I probably just jam the turn myself. If there's a time to fold this it's on the turn facing a pot and a call, but I still think call >>> fold.