Hi all, I'm an experienced hold 'em player but relatively new to PLO. I'd appreciate any feedback you have on this hand. Apologies if this isn't formatted the way it should be; it's been a long time since I posted on 2p2:

9-handed
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50, no rake
Stack sizes in parentheses, where relevant

UTG ($34.30) calls $0.50

UTG+1 ($142.14) calls $0.50

Hero ($118.39) with AsAcKs4d calls $0.50

[there's usually at least one PFR, so I limped with the intention of 3-betting if it made sense]

UTG+3 calls $0.50

UTG+4 calls $0.50

CO folds

BTN ($39.50) raises to $4.25

SB folds

BB folds

UTG calls $4.25

[UTG is -EV player who likely has a wide range]

UTG+1 calls $4.25

[UTG+1 is loose but competent]

Hero raises pot to $23.00

[in this particular game, the limp-reraise screams aces but I thought it was still +EV to reraise, even if I'm turning my hand faceup. Am I wrong?]

Folds around to Button, who calls $23.00

UTG jams for $34.30 total (extra $11.30)

UTG+1 calls $34.30

Hero calls $34.30 (not able to raise)

Button calls $34.30

Pot size: $138.95

Flop 6h 5d 3s

UTG+1 jams ($84.09 to me)

I call

Is this ever a fold? Obviously, it's not a great flop for me but I figured I've got enough equity to justify calling $84.09 to win $223.04. Is this an easy call, an easy fold, or somewhere in the middle? If UTG+1 had checked, do I check behind or jam?

This is only SPR 0.6, its a clear call off and jam vs check.

Not sure where the line here goes, but SPR 1 i def play the same too.

Edit: Did you made a typo writing HH? You wrote its 6h 5d 3s flop, but in spoiler say villain flopped a flush.

If its mono, i guess i fold.

Interested to know what others think how low the SPR needs to be to call off.

He meant flopped straight. Stacking off here on most flops.

Then just unlucky, will always stack off here so low SPR.

Thanks for the replies and the sanity check, everyone! (and yes, meant to say that he flopped a straight, not a flush)

Calling and I think with the 4 in hand I’m comfortable calling at spr 1 too. That being said obv our hand sucks on this texture so I expect to lose a bunch.

But, people can/will spaz jam all kinds of junk once the pot bloats like this.

Think you played it great pre.

Looks as though you have a good handle on the table dynamic .. but you didn't pay attention to the stacks and missed an opportunity to protect your whole stack while potentially getting into a 'flip' against 1-2 of the shorter stacks with a decent amount of dead chips in the middle.

POT isn't the only raise in PLO!!! It's possible that a raise to $18-20 sends the same AAxx message as potting does, but it gives you the option of forcing the big stacks to play for everything PF if you get the 'typical' PLO shove-fest by the shorter stacks, especially when they are the 3-bettor.

Yes, AAxx is +EV PF even against 3-4 other random hands. But why allow them to see a Flop 'on the cheap' in a now bloated pot? If either of the big stacks calls off then you will be in an even better EV position in the side pot than the main.

During PLO I'm very aware of where the stacks are .. and I LOVE side pots so I can try to at least break even in the hand if I lose the main. BUT .. BUT .. I will manipulate my bet sizing in a fashion so as to either trap Players in the hand 'on the cheap' or at least try to scare them into a fold due to the threat that I can re-pot them when it comes back around. (Or I actually do re-pot them for their whole stack.)

Your Player Pool may not be aware enough to notice what's going during the hand, but my normal game pays attention to my raise sizes.

With B first to act they should be aware that there are at least two stacks behind that could shove and reopen action to Hero or the other big stack. I'm not saying they're going to fold .. in fact I don't want them to fold .. at least to the $20! What's the difference between $20 and $23? It's not $3 .. it's close to $100 in this poker game.

I'm not even talking about winning or losing. If they want to play A642 I'm fine with it .. but it's going to be for 200bb, not 40bb and then an additional 20bb getting a massive Pot Odds price.

If you lose your stack here I'm fine with it .. as should be pretty much every PLO Player who posts here. But wouldn't you feel so much better about how the hand went down if your opponent called off totally dominated instead of you calling off almost drawing dead?

PLO is about Equity denial when a pot is already built up .. and by handcuffing yourself PF you actually CREATED a daisy-chain of 'sound' poker decisions which put you into a spot where your AAxx was below 50% equity against 3 random hands with the rest of your stack exposed. Via Pot Odds it's pretty damn hard to find random PLO holdings that were over -10% EV along the way here PF.

AP .. I can fold here if I know the Player pool. Yes, we have BD flush and low end wheel gutter .. we also have decent equity against 2pr. But I just don't give my stack away here as much as I used to. Certainly you don't want to get exploited here, but I'm assuming I can put my stack to pretty good use in the next few hands based on this action. AND DO NOT SHOW THE FOLD .. tell them you had AKQJ-ds and totally missed.

Stack awareness is not just a PLO thing .. this very same scenario is relevant in NL as well. GL