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01-19-2023 , 02:49 PM
Hi guys,
I played recently pretty deep live 1/3 game with the rock (10$)
I raised AsAdJs6d from UTG to 15$ only BB calls

im siting on 250bb
opponent has 300BB
Flop comes

3c4d5d

BB Checks I bet 20$ he raises to 80$
decision on me. What should I do and why? I have blockers to the wheel, I have nut diamonds, and I have 6 as a blocker to the higher str8.

My opponent is a pretty solid player, balanced, he showed a couple of bluffs before, so he kinda understands the ranges.

should I just call with the position? seems like he has already made hand.
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01-19-2023 , 03:59 PM
You should recognize that this flop is not as good for your utg opening range as it is for BB's defending range and check and take a free card.
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01-19-2023 , 04:22 PM
Agree with DT. The other benefit of checking is you disguise your nfd.
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01-19-2023 , 06:39 PM
If you want to keep your range somewhat balanced against the opponent for the cases when you actually flop the nuts in spots like these and if the opponent is the type of player who would try to bluff you off hands on boards like these that should favour his range, you could raise to something like 250, though the problem is that then you basically are more or less priced in to call of the rest with 7-11 outs+backdoor FH if he jams on you. And in this spot he probably will jam at least sets+straights (depending on your image, how the table is playing etc.), which is basically what his bet says he has. The problem with calling is that it will be very easy to fold for your opponent if your flush hits, since Ax hands with diamonds will make up a very large part of your bet-calling range. I do however prefer raising to calling, but if I am playing my A game I just fold this one and move on.

Agree with the other players that checking it back is the much better option here.
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01-20-2023 , 01:56 AM
Can get on board a check back same reason as everyone else.

As played absolutely not folding. Call and play for d or A. He may even shut down a street on brick, board pair or 7,6
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01-20-2023 , 02:09 AM
Cbet is far from as bad other posters are suggesting. Even though BB has more 76 in range I think he should still defend tightly if he is playing correctly, so Hero can bet tons of low-orientated boards. Plus, we have the 6 and aa blocking straights.

As played i guess im calling but i admit the rest of the hand could be challenging.
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01-20-2023 , 12:14 PM
For those advocating checking back here, are you ever cbetting this flop?
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01-20-2023 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian O'Nolan
For those advocating checking back here, are you ever cbetting this flop?
I personally would be more inclined to cbet mostly pure bluffs and value and check most good draws. Maybe also cbet nut flush draws + gutshot etc. But I really donít like a flop call unless the opponent is prone to shut down when called after a c/r, so basically I want to re-raise or fold if he raises my c-bet. But I am probably wrong here, IDK.
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01-21-2023 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian O'Nolan
For those advocating checking back here, are you ever cbetting this flop?
yes, but almost never against this player as described.
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01-21-2023 , 07:47 PM
A range check seems a lot better than betting at some very low frequency. If we cbet 0-5% our range is like... 67 and... that's probably about it? That's no good against a competent opponent.

NFD plus 6 blocker plus AA is pretty near the top of most UTG opening ranges on this board. We have some 5678ds, 6789ds, A678ds, but not all that many 67 combos. We should have almost no sets. If we ever want to cbet this board against a good opponent (and certainly betting this flop against a weaker opponent who will c/c with non-nut FDs/etc is mandatory), I think this hand has to go in the bet bucket.
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01-21-2023 , 08:03 PM
BB should have a donking range on this board so My guess is that id be cbetting around 20%

Have plenty of nfds to check back but i think AA6 is decent candidate to cbet. Cant bet only 76.


I feel like many people here too spooked facing the xr. Dont forget we are deep and need some nfds in our range when we play the turn
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01-23-2023 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Round of 6
I feel like many people here too spooked facing the xr. Dont forget we are deep and need some nfds in our range when we play the turn
Can you elaborate on this please. Iím one of those advocating checking here. Itís not that Iím ďspookedĒ, but rather wanting to see a river as economically as possible and conceivably even calling down with my aces against certain opponents.


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01-23-2023 , 11:32 AM
With the rock you’re not as deep as you suggest
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01-23-2023 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by oxie
Can you elaborate on this please. Iím one of those advocating checking here. Itís not that Iím ďspookedĒ, but rather wanting to see a river as economically as possible and conceivably even calling down with my aces against certain opponents.


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You need some Add in your betting range. If you want to check this one, what others would u prefer to bet?
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01-24-2023 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Round of 6
Can get on board a check back same reason as everyone else.

As played absolutely not folding. Call and play for d or A. He may even shut down a street on brick, board pair or 7,6

You really are calling to hit an Ace? What do you think villain has?
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Yesterday , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BulltexasATM
You really are calling to hit an Ace? What do you think villain has?
Not sure if serious? Playing for 11 cards on the turn.

Villain has a range of hands. Not putting him on 76 only
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Today , 12:42 PM
check call call might be good against a LAG
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