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02-15-2012 , 06:42 PM
3/5 live PLO (buyins $200-$500). I have about $500. Table is full (9-handed), with stacks ranging from below $200 to about $1200.

Several limpers to me. I make it the maximum -- $40 -- with AAA5 (with the 5 suited).

Thoughts? Just fold? Calling is awful, right?

2 calls of the $40, and then one player (fairly aggressive) re-pots to about $230.

Another player on my right (also aggressive) calls him. Both cover me.

So, push or fold?

Lets assume if I shove, its most likely a 3-way all-in, and I'm not going to get either one to fold.

Thanks for your help.
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02-15-2012 , 06:47 PM
No brainer shove. 3 way action with this hand is fine as no one else can have AA and you are doing well vs their ranges, especially if one of them is paired.
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02-15-2012 , 06:51 PM
instapush
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02-15-2012 , 07:04 PM
I haven't run any sims, but it is possible that the extra ace in your hand actually helps you, as it eliminates the (very many) AAxx combos of the re-potter.
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02-15-2012 , 07:24 PM
Hand Equity Wins Ties
#1 AAAc5c 42.19% 88,109 410
#2 10% 28.74% 59,258 1,790
#3 10% !KKds 29.08% 59,978 1,776

And even if we give player #2 a tighter range our equity increases. So its a nobrainer to ship it in here.
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02-15-2012 , 08:49 PM
imo your original raise to 40 is about as bad as it gets though

this hand isnt bad to get all in pre with, but its awful to build a pot with.....
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02-16-2012 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Altheimer
Thoughts? Just fold? Calling is awful, right?
Folding would be awful, calling definitely +ev, might be better than raising in certain lineups.
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02-16-2012 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by wazz
Folding would be awful, calling definitely +ev, might be better than raising in certain lineups.
Why? which lineup?
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02-16-2012 , 07:47 AM
Rly tough ones with the good players on our left and looking to outplay us.
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02-16-2012 , 03:14 PM
limp pre... as played, ship!
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02-16-2012 , 03:40 PM
FWIW, the only reason to raise here is the hope that someone will 3-bet you. This is pretty much your dream scenario.
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02-16-2012 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by knock_turnL
limp pre... as played, ship!


great idea!
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02-16-2012 , 11:32 PM
I'm folding the first time around and jamming as played
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02-17-2012 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RolldUpTrips
I'm folding the first time around
Wat
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02-17-2012 , 10:01 PM
one time in a live tourney blinds were 200-400 i had about 12k ep raises to 1400 and a bunch of callers to me in the sb i look down at AAAx one suit, i thought i had to many chips to gamble at this point (great structure and long levels) and that i would definitely be getting called in at least 1 spot so i folded

flop AQx giving me top set and nut flush draw

girl to my right flopped set of queens

FML
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02-17-2012 , 10:46 PM
the last time i played live plo i had the almost exact same situation played out. it was a 2/5 game with optional utg straddle. i had about $750, most of the table had similar stacks. UTG+1 raised the straddler to $30, i called in UTG+2 with a suited AAA3 (pretty much just hoping to put in a backraise or flop the nuts), another guy called, BTN potted to $210ish, SB called (with like 200 behind lol), original raiser folded then I was able to repot and get stacks in the middle 3-ways against BTN and SB. Turns out I was in great shape, BTN was a rich aggro monkey and had TT89ss and SB had a AKT4ss type hand. board came QQ2xx, gg, scoop massive pot and spend the next hour stacking chips.
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02-17-2012 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kick2dante
one time in a live tourney blinds were 200-400 i had about 12k ep raises to 1400 and a bunch of callers to me in the sb i look down at AAAx one suit, i thought i had to many chips to gamble at this point (great structure and long levels) and that i would definitely be getting called in at least 1 spot so i folded

flop AQx giving me top set and nut flush draw

girl to my right flopped set of queens

FML
was so confused for a second, girl playing 200 400 wtf?! then i saw tourney.
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02-20-2012 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Odd_Oddsen
Hand Equity Wins Ties
#1 AAAc5c 42.19% 88,109 410
#2 10% 28.74% 59,258 1,790
#3 10% !KKds 29.08% 59,978 1,776

And even if we give player #2 a tighter range our equity increases. So its a nobrainer to ship it in here.
Yep, I agree.

Pre is whatever, probarly overlimp it.
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02-20-2012 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kick2dante
imo your original raise to 40 is about as bad as it gets though

this hand isnt bad to get all in pre with, but its awful to build a pot with.....
+1

if there anything you wanna do with this hand just limp and hope u flop a flush-(draw), played as happened you have to get it in.
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02-20-2012 , 07:46 PM
Blopp, do you think folding first time round pre is bad?
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02-20-2012 , 07:51 PM
live is way too boring to fold this, cmon.
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02-20-2012 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by thatpfunk
live is way too boring to fold this, cmon.
seriously. never folding.
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02-21-2012 , 05:56 AM
I don't.... I don't geddit. Why would you fold this? So you could brag about how tight you are? Do people not want an overlimping range in this spot so polarize their decisions to raise/fold?
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02-21-2012 , 06:49 AM
I limp solely for the possibility that a couple of raises will break out and I'll be able to get my stack in preflop. If I know/suspect that there will be no raises, then yes, I fold; I pretty much suck at playing crippled hands OOP.

As played, you think ("Well, I just turned a lemon into lemonade") and snap-shove.

Regards, Lee
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02-21-2012 , 11:51 AM
Lee Jones you always crack me up, thanks. For some reason I always imagine you cite your posts to an old lady who types it up.
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