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06-14-2025 , 08:55 AM
1-2 PLO with a 5 bring in. Both V unknown and around 1K eff

Hero in co with AA99ds all red

Pre: Mp opens 15, mp1 calls, hero 65 and both call

Flop (200) : KQTccs
Both check
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06-14-2025 , 09:14 AM
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06-14-2025 , 01:21 PM
JJ are the most frequently bet blockers on this board and it would be nice to have a club but your four weaker blockers stack up to pretty frequent, I think. I'd start at B50 and see what happens. If we have a lot of check backs (betting infrequently) maybe we could even go a little smaller (I may do some counting later). As long as they keep checking to me I'm gonna keep barreling blanks and just give up clubs and board pairs. If called once we are just over spr 2 so geo sized in the neighborhood of B67 B67 is prolly best. If I were sharp I'd know how to geo size across three streets and use that fraction on the flop too. If called twice I'm still interested in barreling bricks but geo size to something smaller because the turn spr is smaller.
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06-14-2025 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Munga30
If called once we are just over spr 2 so geo sized in the neighborhood of B67 B67 is prolly best. If I were sharp I'd know how to geo size across three streets and use that fraction on the flop too.
I haven't had in coffee yet so my mind is still foggy, but I think this is the right idea. Multi-way pots are a nightmare, so to start, I'd begin by memorizing a heads up situation. And to even get a heads up situation with reasonably number it probably needs to be a 3bet pot preflop. So tell me if this sounds about right.

3bet pot preflop heads up with 100bb starting stacks would be betting about 55% on flop, 55% on turn and on river if you go all in your remaing stack will be about 55% of river pot. So on flop and turn look at pot size calculate 50% of it add a bit more. And for the special case of blind versus blind, since there is no dead money and the pot is smaller therefore go bigger like 2/3 pot on flop, 2/3 pot on turn and on river your remaining stack should be about 2/3 the size of the river pot.

Then I would memorize it for 3bet pot with 3 players with 100bb starting stacks. And also you both of these for larger stacking stacks, but at some point going larger is going to have it at pot, pot, pot on every street. So maybe memorize for singly raised pots next.
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06-14-2025 , 05:29 PM
We check a ton of straight boards in theory and this board theoretically crushes their range. A lot of their hands can and should continue here and we only bet 50% on straight boards. Check is fine and with our hand specifically we are just going into passive mode trying to get to river as cheaply as possible.

One of those too strong to bluff but too weak to fold scenarios.
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06-14-2025 , 06:04 PM
This is not a board we want to mess around with, and the Ac as a blocker on its own might be worth more than all 4 of our cards i.e. no Ac no play
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06-15-2025 , 05:47 PM
check, we are way behind villain ranges
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