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10-25-2021 , 03:23 PM
    PartyGaming - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 4 players
    Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

    CO: $39.97 (40 bb)
    BTN: $340.12 (340.1 bb)
    SB: $210.21 (210.2 bb)
    Hero (BB): $112.40 (112.4 bb)

    4 players post ante of $0.10, SB posts $0.50, Hero posts BB $1.00

    Pre Flop: (pot: $1.90) Hero has A K 6 A
    CO calls $1.00, BTN raises to $4.90, fold, Hero raises to $16.60, fold, BTN calls $11.70

    Flop: ($35.10, 2 players) 4 5 7
    Hero bets $16.67, BTN calls $16.67

    Turn: ($68.44, 2 players) 3
    Hero checks, BTN bets $22.14, Hero calls $22.14

    River: ($112.72, 2 players) 2
    Hero checks, BTN bets $73.81, Hero calls $56.89

    Spoiler:
    Results: $226.50 pot ($2.00 rake)
    Final Board: 4 5 7 3 2

    BTN shows 6 8 8 7: (Straight, Eight High)
    (Pre 37%, Flop 92%, Turn 100%)

    Hero mucks A K 6 A: (One Pair, Aces)
    (Pre 63%, Flop 8%, Turn 0%)

    BTN wins $224.50



    I thought about this hand a bit, I think I prefer just check calling down the whole way. I don't think a bet on the flop accomplishes much.
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    10-25-2021 , 03:28 PM
    Is there really enough floating at 100 to justify calling that river?
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    10-25-2021 , 03:41 PM
    I actually don't think so, folding this river is totally justified. I just know I'm going to be blasting with every KJT8 or whatever I show up with here if I'm in my opponents shoes. My main issue is that the wheel straight is actually a worse call here than AA6x I think. So essentially even if I have a straight I'm going to have to fold a ton. Basically I'm either going to call down with the nuts, or 65/64/63, which is very similar to AA6. So my understanding of the spot is either I'm calling with only the nuts, or I need to be making calls with one pair + 6 I guess.
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    10-25-2021 , 03:43 PM
    I don't like it. I think you're going to be up against low-wraps that make a straight too much for this to be profitable.
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    10-25-2021 , 03:45 PM
    Yeah I mostly agree. Although the spot in general I think is about losing the minimum more so than being profitable. We need to be good ~28% of the time to break even. I wouldn't be surprised if we aren't good that often though.
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    10-25-2021 , 04:05 PM
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    Originally Posted by KnoxKnoxJoke
    Yeah I mostly agree. Although the spot in general I think is about losing the minimum more so than being profitable. We need to be good ~28% of the time to break even. I wouldn't be surprised if we aren't good that often though.
    I think this could be population dependent. I'm not familiar with the Party games. In my US games, I wouldn't be sure that I'm a quarter of the time here vs this sizing. Maybe against certain opponents, but as general proposition, I'm guessing not.
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    10-25-2021 , 04:28 PM
    Seems ok vs agressive villain

    Though high variance
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    10-25-2021 , 11:33 PM
    is this even a flop bet?
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    10-25-2021 , 11:55 PM
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    Originally Posted by yasuo
    is this even a flop bet?
    I'm pretty sure it isn't.
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    10-25-2021 , 11:59 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KnoxKnoxJoke
    I'm pretty sure it isn't.
    yea i think our range does quite poorly on this board plus we are OOP on a rather dynamic board. would check a ton
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    10-26-2021 , 12:15 AM
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    Originally Posted by yasuo
    yea i think our range does quite poorly on this board plus we are OOP on a rather dynamic board. would check a ton
    I think a viable strategy is just calling when you flop 68. And basically never calling otherwise versus some unknown. People just don't bluff enough.
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    10-26-2021 , 08:43 AM
    The problem on the turn is there's so many 6x combos and your hand is pretty face up. Just fold the turn and move on
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    10-31-2021 , 09:26 PM
    I mean range wise, what are you accomplishing betting this flop? If you have non top set you check, if you have the nuts you can bet ig. With your actual hand its not terrible, i prefer it to a check because we have the 6 and bdfd. so w/e

    If we check because of our range then when the turn hits we have a decision (with the 6 its eh), and the river is just very mediocre-ish because what is he turning into a bluff besides a set... two pair gone wild or something. We dont even beat that. This float would be the craziest thing ive seen all week but hey its possible!

    Checking because of our range stop him from overbluffing because you are protected by strong hands.

    Just for a experiment try reading this hand from the view of playing your range vs your actual hand. Maybe you can see how playing your range is much superior as he cant just bomb river after a missed flush draw because we could have the nuts but since we bet flop and cheeecked, its very weak. ya?
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