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05-09-2023 , 06:19 PM
5-10-20 PLO. Villain is a huge whale, very aggro and a mega station. He doubled me up in double board with TTxxx on
JJ2r 2x 3x
JT6ssc Qc 3c
By check calling pot pot pot

This hand happened before that. I have 4K and he has 11k.

Hero in str with A4478 no clubs.

Pre: everyone limps

Flop (140) : 774cc
2 checks, hero 60, 2 folds. V in co makes it 300. Folds back to hero.

He definitely has a 7 and definitely isn’t folding. Should we smash and blindly jam turns? Or call and play turns? For what it’s worth he would take this line with crap 7 like 23788 but he of course can have 4 clean overs.
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05-09-2023 , 06:34 PM
I let him drive the action. As you implied there are way too
many turns and rivers that denutify (I just made word that up) us. If he’s going to bet big twice I don’t see the point of jamming with that much exposure.

In the unlikely scenario that it runs out with 2 safe cards, then you’re risk free to bombard the river.
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05-10-2023 , 05:57 AM
Villain sounds like he will blindly smash turn. Guess that means you can just call down and bomb safe rivers as oxie said. No real point betting.

Last edited by Kalaea; 05-10-2023 at 06:03 AM. Reason: never mind I can't read.
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05-10-2023 , 06:34 AM
i say we repot. there are only 5 turn ranks we don't like, vs 8 we do. and even if one of those 5 come he's not guaranteed to have it. we might be able to check back turn over cards as well, it's not like villain is going to turn trips into a bluff on the river..
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05-12-2023 , 04:12 PM
I can go either way, and I don't think it makes a huge difference. However, if your plan is to get the money in, might as well start shoveling now.
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05-12-2023 , 06:20 PM
Call seems like the only appealing option here OOP. Lots of tough decisions coming.
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06-06-2023 , 06:04 AM
A good villain will see a pair in their hand with their 4 and reason that they're far less likely to hit so need to keep the pot small. A mediocre villain will realise that they might be beat and play their hand slower. A bad villain will look at the 7 in the hand and the two 7s on board and think gin! and get their money in drawing very thin. Yes, he could have 4 live overcards, but he could even have a hand like 45679, but those are worst case and it sounds like he's more than bad enough that we're missing out on a lot of value to just call, and putting ourselves in unnecessarily difficult turn and river decisions to boot. Make it 1k straight and watch him call drawing thin and then jam 100% of turns and watch him call thin again and then proudly turn over your hand at showdown and shrug as if to say 'bad luck dude, you'll get them next time'.
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06-06-2023 , 08:39 AM
Think calling is very clear and headed to the turn. If you repot you're letting him know you have a FH - I mean if he's bad enough that he will stack off this deep with every 7x then repot, but I don't think he will. It just sucks on the turn as stacks are deep and you're somewhat blind as every turn card will be an over.
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06-09-2023 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wazz
A good villain will see a pair in their hand with their 4 and reason that they're far less likely to hit so need to keep the pot small. A mediocre villain will realise that they might be beat and play their hand slower. A bad villain will look at the 7 in the hand and the two 7s on board and think gin! and get their money in drawing very thin. Yes, he could have 4 live overcards, but he could even have a hand like 45679, but those are worst case and it sounds like he's more than bad enough that we're missing out on a lot of value to just call, and putting ourselves in unnecessarily difficult turn and river decisions to boot. Make it 1k straight and watch him call drawing thin and then jam 100% of turns and watch him call thin again and then proudly turn over your hand at showdown and shrug as if to say 'bad luck dude, you'll get them next time'.

I like this and play the same until I notice that they start folding against my "def the flopped nuts" raises.
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