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5-5 PLO turned Nut Flush, ck or bet? 5-5 PLO turned Nut Flush, ck or bet?

02-23-2023 , 12:38 AM
Live 5-5 PLO, 9 handed, splashy game.

V1, 30's, splashy, 1.5k
V2, 30's, splashier, 1.2k
Hero, 30's, viewed tight/solid, 4k

Early position opens $20, few callers, Hero in BB completes with Ad Jc 10h 6d.

$100

Qd 9d 6c

Early position checks, V1 bets $50, V2 calls $50, hero check raises to $350.

Plan is to take the pot down now with my image, if not, I have 15 outs.

V1 calls, V2 calls.

$1,150

4d.

We turn the stone cold nuts. One of the villians probably has a wrap, the other a smaller flush draw / 2p / set.

If we lead our hand is pretty face up, if we check we're giving a free card for all sets to boat up.

I do like checking, (it will probably be checked through), and then leading 1/2 pot on river if board doesn't pair. We also have a 6 in our hand to somewhat block board pairs.

What do you guys think the best line is?
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02-23-2023 , 01:03 AM
Either option is fine but id lean towards betting. Only because, like u said, it probably gets checked through.

Can still get called by middle set or Kdd
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02-23-2023 , 02:54 AM
Splashy and splashier are how you describe the Vs. This should mean they are calling too often in which case we should be betting. They called our raise with either inferior draws, 2p, or set. No need to let the set draw for free when given description it will likely pay.
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02-23-2023 , 11:32 AM
I would always bet here. Want to get value from sets. Smaller flushes may call as well. If you check and it checks through and board doesn't pair and you bet they might just fold.
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02-23-2023 , 12:29 PM
I am betting here. Value, value, value. The splashy players I know are rarely folding a set or two pair and might call w/ a worse diamond just to see if you have the naked Ad.
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02-23-2023 , 06:55 PM
If you are on the fence about both actions, I would go with something like 1/4 to 1/3 pot bet. This gives you more control of the hand. As you described, they are splashy, so all sets are calling and most likely smaller flushes. Top two may even call if the V's are what you say they are. This also gives off the image that it might be a blocker bet if you had a set. You may even get raised by K/J high flushes and possibly top set thinking they are praying on the small blocker bet. You can reassess and decide the best way to extract value on non-pairing rivers. If the river does pair and you check, it may look like you are trapping and smaller flushes and even lower end full houses may check it back.

I would not do this against solid regs though. Personally, I am most likely just potting the turn due to their stack sizes relative to the pot and being splashy players. V2 is $350 in with $850 left into a $2300 pot, so there is not much he is folding if he called that large of a c/r on the flop.
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02-24-2023 , 12:15 AM
Results: I potted and they both folded : /
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02-25-2023 , 03:56 PM
i agree with betting smallish, maybe up to half pot depending on reads and dynamics, and doing the same thing with our sets. even in splashy games this kind of spot (OOP with a very strong hand) is one where i think being balanced is a little more important. having similar lines with big made hands and big draws on wet boards is very helpful against bad regs.
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02-27-2023 , 08:10 PM
always go for the bet unless you have a strong read/history where he showed agg in similiar situations. But still, bet is def higher ev in general.
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02-27-2023 , 11:39 PM
The way the action went your kind of repping a set so I would bet 1/3rd because with a set your supposed to bet fold 1/3 pot to a check raise and for that reason your opponent might jam a weaker flush for protection.
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02-27-2023 , 11:40 PM
[QUOTE=Rockyfour;58045122]The way the action went your kind of repping a set so I would bet 1/3rd because with a set your supposed to bet fold 1/3 pot to a check raise and for that reason your opponent might jam a weaker flush for protection/value. More value in this spot just based on the fact that the SPR is low.
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02-27-2023 , 11:44 PM
The way the action went your kind of repping a set so I would bet 1/3rd because with a set your supposed to bet fold 1/3 pot to a check raise and for that reason your opponent might jam a weaker flush for protection.

Problem is the SPR is so low that potting it is the only reasonable play to me. Like you basically have direct odds to pot a set, therefore your opponent should call with weaker flushes at least some of the time.
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