so blind structure is CO = $10, BU =$20, SB=$5, BB=$5

double board bomb pot on dealer changes.

Hero has ATTx4y and $1600 eff.

8 ways to flop

$200 in pot
Top board = J T 3
Bottom board = 9 6 6

im in CO, checks to player on my right, he bets $75, i call, BU calls.. 3 way to turn.

$425 in pot
Top board = J T 3 2
Bottom Board = 9 6 6 4

x,x BU bets $325, 1 fold, i call

Pot = $1075
Top board = J T 3 2 5
Bottom Board = 9 6 6 K 2

x, BU pot $1075.. Hero?

Just fold the flop. Look for nuttier equity if you're only playing one half. Maybe you could talk me into calling on the button but there's a gulf between there and the CO otf.

Definitely fold flop, you have very little equity on one board JJ scoops you even. Lots of bad runouts and he likely has a 6 which makes river spot super gross.

How does the bottom Board lose a 4 and pick up a K?


While Bomb Pot mentality has to be different, which is very evident here with only one true out on the Bottom Board and 1/2 your chips going into that side of the pot. I think it's VERY conservative to fold this Flop when you're scared of just one holding and have BD nut flush .. and it's possibly still multi-way.

The Turn really sucks us in since we do pick up the nut flush draw AND a wheel draw, but lose any future dead chips now that we are looking at HU. I still think it's way too conservative to be scared of 3 combos of JJxx when it's MORE likely that V has a 6x holding. You must also note that with two 6s on the other Board that it's unlikely to be beat by a higher straight should the gutter come in. $325 to win $212 is a pretty steep price, but again it's your mentality for risk that comes into play.

Someone could be betting 33xx or a wrap on the top .. note the non-pot sized bets.

The River sucks us in even more as we now have a 5-card hand (wheel) .. and then we get the pot bet from the V. If we were scared of JJ, it's not an issue anymore. If you're now going to start to be concerned about 64 then why wasn't the bet on the Turn full pot to protect against other 6x holdings?

If there is a 4 on the 2nd Board then it's even less likely V has a 4 in their hand .. blah blah.

I think I'm pretty conservative in BPs, but if we are folding 2nd set with 2 BD draws while still multi-way with the other Board paired I think that's way too tight. And then to consider folding when we pick up equity is another 'no go' for me .. gotta see the River.

Now we improve on the River and have to worry about 4 combos of 64 instead of 3 combos of JJ. I guess I'd rather 'not' have made a wheel since a Player sticking around with a 64xx holding is slightly more likely than a Player pounding JJxx now that they don't have the nuts on that Board.

I've given Players way to much credit in BPs in the past .. and I just don't see how we can fold now that we've made a 5-card hand. Does having a K instead of a 4 on the 2nd Board matter? Yes, to a certain degree since it moves us to 6 combos instead of 4.

Look, you went from the 2nd nuts to the 2nd nuts .. if we got sucked out on by 3346 then so be it. You have to be good here 40% of the time? to break even? Does JJxx or 64xx fall into more than 40% of the continuing range of these V? Sure, there's some possible quarters in there, but maybe even some scoops against 33xx. I'm not really counting on 33xx to pot the River after 'not' potting Flop/Turn.

IMO JJ holdings would pot Flop and certainly Turn with flush draw coming in, so we're looking more at a 6x holding that we hope is not 64. Can that be more than 40% of the time .. yes. GL