GGpoker $0.5/$1

CO 400bb Villian
BU 100bb
SB 200bb
BB 187bb Hero

CO is a reg, very active in the CO and BU but doesn't really get OOL especially Multiway

Hero has
AA65

Co opens 3.5bb
BU calls
SB calls
Hero 3! 17.5bb
CO calls
BU folds
SB calls

Flop (56bb)
Q87

SB checks
Hero Checks
CO bets 42.6bb
SB folds
Hero ???

Other than A, we have one clean out, if a 9 comes it completes JTxx and it is definitely in their ranges.

How would you play this hand?


How about another scenario
Let's SB pots out, how would you react too?

Thanks in advance!

This deep I probably just flat open.

As played fold flop.

If sb donks meh, probably fold.

Absolutely cannot flat the open, must 3b.

I like the check on flop and now ill get it in.

We have the required equity vs 2p type hands and he can often have 1p+draws

May I know your POV on must 3b?

Preflop 3betting with almost every AAxx is a simple basic way to play poker. It is a pot limit instead of no limit. The easiest way to build a worthwhile pot and get a lot of chips in by the end of the hand is to have raised preflop with quality hands like AAxx. However, AAAx rainbow is weak. The worst rainbow AAAx hands that can’t make a straight like AAA9, AAA8, AAA7 and AAA6 are candidates to preflop fold.

Flop play for me as the preflop raiser with AAxx that didn’t flop much other than it being an overpair is to look at the backup. This is a non-flush, non-straight, non-flush draw board. On a board like this your straight draw has some value as backup to your overpair. Rainbow boards are a gift to you in situations like this. Think about all the times when there was a flush draw on the flop that you didn’t have and you were worried about your opponents having the flush draw. Well, no such worries on a rainbow board. Keep the preflop initiative and bet the flop. If you can get one of them to fold and make this a heads up hand, then that would be great. On rainbow boards like this you have to follow through a lot with overpair plus backup. Re-evaluate on the turn.

We go broke now. Nh.


If SB pots out after CO bet, we fold. The low open ender gives more outs HU but multiway it's garbage. It's also way too likely that aces are not good and we have no BDFD.

I have thought about this hand a bit, but didn't get a chance to look at it. My initial thought was that I hated the flop check and my suspicion was confirmed. This is a pure bet in this spot and you can mix between 1/2 and Full pot (given only those options).

I think about it this way, given my 3-betting pre-flop range where am I here? I started before the flop with a significant range advantage to my opponents. On this somewhat dry, dynamic flop, I continue to have a range advantage and I'm in the upper part of my range. Not the top, but I would guess we are at like 30th percentile although I can't confirm this without a lot of work that I'm not willing to do. Not betting this flop is a big mistake.

Given, that we checked this is a dead easy pure call. You guys are giving way too much credit here to think we don't have enough equity to call. Like, we have the best hand here a good percentage of the time, and our draw is live a good percentage of the time when we are not the best. It's super clear.

I found the next part a little interesting, and I think this is what a lot of us would miss... you now need to JAM the turn on many many turn cards. I'm not sure I find this in game - but the results are amazing, so it's an excellent hand post. If we had bet the flop things would be different here I think, depending on the action, but after c/c flop this is the turn.

• A? jam
• K? jam
• Q? proceed cautiously
• J? proceed cautiously, unless it's the J - then JAM
• T? proceed cautiously
• 9? Jam
• 8? Jam
• 7? jam
• 6? jam
• 5? jam
• 3? jam
• 2? jam
  
  
  

It's a tough spot.

My initial thought was Hero is too deep to xr.

From there betting large does seem like the best play.

The harder question is after betting large, say 3/4 pot, should Hero fold to a jam from CO? And I'm not sure - i suspect bet-folding is okish from a GTO perspective if we find the right sizing. Okish, but close. If CO is aggro then just calling it off.

If CO folds and SB jams think i am just stacking off but not too happy.

I think if we bet large and CO jams and SB folds it's an easy call and not close. If you are CO and have Q8 or Q7 somehow what are you going to do after I pot the flop? Probably jam it in. What about 9TJ? I think a reasonable subset of jamming hands for CO would look like QQ, 88, 77, Q8, Q7, 9TJ, Q9T, 89T, 79T and we have 40% equity vs 25%!AA:(QQ,88,77, 9TJ, Q8, Q7, Q9T, 89T, 79T).

I'm not at all comfortable bet-folding this hand. I think we should bet as a default, and if we check it should be to jam unless it goes pot and then all-in ahead of us, in which case we can fold.

I’m sorry, I can get wild but setting up a stack off for 187bb with AA on Q78 does not seem like a long term winning strategy against competent opponents.

You open from CO, SB calls, Bb 3b you call and sb calls. Both check to you on a Q65 rainbow board. How do you play your range? Are you checking KQJT? Do you have many Q6 or Q5 combos? A few yes, but not a lot. Are you checking Kk? JJ? Think through your range as CO in this big pot and seriously consider what you are betting here. It is not just QQ, 66, 55.

I’m very curious how you answer this.

Happy to answer Mark, specifically on Q56? Or typo?

Typo - but same same - either way.

If I’m CO, I’m probably betting anything better than top pair + open ended unless the BB is notorious spew.

That includes wraps + any pair etc obv.

With that broadway rundown I’m typically checking back unless overs and gutter too.

On the 78 board vs CO I’d be most concerned with the middling rundowns that have flopped huge, occasionally QQ although I think sb can have QQ more here maybe?

Never betting KK on this texture, might occasionally stab with dogshit with no showdown like JJxx although with that exact hand I might be inclined to let one peel to use my blockers if checked too again and straights available.

Hope that’s what you were after.