Playing 3-handed. Blinds apprx $6/12. Im sitting on $3000. Villain has ~$2000.

V in this hand is very aggro and spewy. He tends to shut down when I fire, but I can get him to spew feigning weakness. My favorite is betting 1/3 pot and he will pot-raise me a ton.

I have Kh8hJJ in the BB. Button limps, SB calls, we see a flop.

(Pot $36)
Flop is AcTcQh. Great flop obviously. I also block the straight, so my odds of being mostly freerolled go down a lot.

SB leads pot. Given spewy nature of opponent, I see two options. One is raising and hope he 3-bets a combo-draw hand (this guy loves to overplay flush draws/combo draws). I have no clubs as well. I pot to $144. V calls.

Pot $324

Turn is Jh.

Normally this card kind of sucks for me, but now I have the 2nd nut flush draw and a set.

V still has ~$1900 behind. SPR of 6 makes this a bit tricky now. I could be freerolling him, but now I also could easily be freerolled if he has AhQx with another heart. Also he could easily have clubs, and nut club draw could easily get there.

I figure there's decent odds I'm freerolling him if action happens, with some chance I'm being freerolled, and another chance that he's on a club draw. Also I don't want a tough decision on the river, so I figure let's get stacks in now.

I pot $324. He repots $1296 with $600 behind, only choice is to get it in now.

River is Qd.


Overvalued my holdings on turn?

Think on the turn there is not much more we can do but getting the money in.

On the flop we might be better of calling villains bet and see what happens. We would not be too happy if any villain repots us

I think there's two different things - one is being OK with getting the money in and one is actively trying to get the money in. In this scenario, I went into the hand thinking I absolutely wanted to get the money in. I want every flush draw paying the full price here, and knew he'd fold the river if he missed, and I had a reasonable chance of drawing to a full win instead of chop if he did have the broadway.

On the flop, with this particular opponent I think calling is OK, but I also know he loves to overplay flush draws and could easily get the money in here as a massive favorite.

Hand worked out, he had KT33 with 2 clubs, so I had an edge with the money going in but I did wonder how many of the hands that would be piling in money I'd be ahead of.

3-handed. Very aggro. Spewy.

Taking into account all these things, the hand you have is more likely to have more outs than him, and of course its a sin to give a six-high club draw a free shot at it on the turn so you gotta pot it. Sometimes the very aggro, spewy guy playing three handed will have AhAdKcQc, but more often will have something like the garbage he did.

Leaning toward flop call as we have the current nuts but won't on a significant number of runouts. The extra straight blocker matters more on a rainbow board than it does here. Stacks are deep? (you don't mention button's) and trying to ko the guy with absolute position. $140 may be a reasonable call IP at ~$3k effective. SB read is significant, don't get me wrong, but it's a limped pot and you can still raise when this our hand includes a single club. Idk, I go back and forth. More confident about the aggressive line when shallower.

You might have made the right play vs this specific villain but vs the average player it is a bit agressive. Don't think many players lead out pot with the straightdraw when such an obvious straight is possible.

But worked out well in the end so no problem.

I prefer flatting the flop, but I want to add that the suits of your jacks matter. If you have K 8 J J, then you absolutely want to flat, since if your opponent has the straight, half of the time it is with the J, making it likely he has a freerolling flush draw to go with it. If you have K 8 J Jx, then your raise is significantly less likely to get freerolled, since villain will need 2 of his 3 remaining non-jack cards to be clubs. I'm not advocating for a raise in this spot, but it's a lot less risky than if you don't have the J.

i'm late to the punch but great post. given your read of opponent and your level of thought, you may be giving it too much thought, so to speak. if he's that much action he's still gonna have naked kj a decent amount of the time.

how's his river play? if you figure him for kjxx and flush or pair comes, can he get away from it or does he pay?

I think it's best to jam since worst case you're freerolling each other and probably more often you're freerolling him if not ahead outright anyway.

def agree with flop raise due to its ambiguity and knocking out the btn or potentially making btn pay. flatting flop against this opponent on this board with a player behind is a mistake.

I mean, man... you call the turn, cause if the river pairs, you'll know death cards. And why wouldn't someone else have a k straight there? Is this honestly the place to get advice, man? Like, what is pairing on the river that you're like "BINGO!" a 10? So you're like, i got the same straight as somebody, and the 10 will come? And if your flush is good, someone will get you paid. And chances are it isn't good, if you run like me.