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266Tss (2 and T suited): Marginal or trash? 266Tss (2 and T suited): Marginal or trash?
View Poll Results: What do you think of 2 6 6 T?
Trash- Fold in all positions
18 81.82%
Marginal- Keep playing the way I'm playing
3 13.64%
Semi-marginal: Only play it in late position if it's limped to me
1 4.55%

06-18-2015 , 06:37 PM
2/2 live, 9 player

I usually limp with 2 6 6 T and similar hands from any position because if I hit my set, there's a good chance I have a flush draw as backup.

If I limped, I will also call a raise but will fold to a 3 bet.
and if I havent acted yet and there's a raise in front of me, I fold.

I have yet to flop a set WITH flush draw by doing this.
(and I c/f if I ONLY flop flush draw.)


is 2 6 6 T trash and fold in all positions?
or marginal and keep playing the way I'm playing?

or semi-marginal and I should only play it in late position if it's limped to me?
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06-18-2015 , 06:43 PM
i'm no expert but i would't play that from anywhere except if its limped and i'm in the bb.
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06-18-2015 , 06:55 PM
This hand is garbage, not even close to playable.
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06-18-2015 , 07:38 PM
It's the sort of hand you want to play in a situation where you should VPIP-ing 80%+ of your hands. E.g. defending the BB against a steal, being the SB in HU, opening BTN in a >2-handed table against nitty blinds, etc. Limping from any position is kind of nuts.
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06-18-2015 , 07:42 PM
I havent checked, but if this hand isnt in the bottom decile of hands, then it is the 80%-90% decile. Its a horrible hand to play in full ring games. Even if you are the end boss of PLO and play against huge fish, it would be hard to turn a profit with it by limping in early.
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06-18-2015 , 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oink
then it is the 80%-90% decile.
85.86%

OP, Probably peel BB vs SB min steal or maybe BTN/SB min but not many situations you're getting the odds. Really is trashy.
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06-18-2015 , 09:27 PM
Can someone run me through the maths on how if we do get a set there is a good chance we have a flush draw as a back up?
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06-18-2015 , 10:14 PM
Hand is trash the reasons being you rarely flop top set (bad news) and if you make a flush draw it's ten high (also bad news) i would only play this if it was folded to me on the BTN and i can just raise cause the blinds don't defend. Also you have a 2 which just devalues the hand even more
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06-19-2015 , 02:52 AM
Shockingly bad hand. T6, T2 and 62 are terrible combinations, and you are often going to be flush under flush or set under set.

Might minraise steal on the button vs tight blinds, and might defend BB vs SB open, but other than that fold always.
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06-19-2015 , 03:26 AM
basically that, stealing from btn and defending, depending on blinds.
hu vs aggro 3bettor i might open limp btn hehe
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06-19-2015 , 04:50 AM
Not enough nuttiness even for a button overlimp, neither a ten-high flush nor a set of sixes are playable, especially live, they either win a small pot or lose a big one.
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06-19-2015 , 04:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coon74
Not enough nuttiness even for a button overlimp, neither a ten-high flush nor a set of sixes are playable, especially live, they either win a small pot or lose a big one.
openlimp. only hu
but i don´t like that either tbh, only in certain circumstances (and it might be bad even then)
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06-19-2015 , 09:09 AM
I'd overlimp sometimes from the button and open from the button sometimes against nitty blinds.
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06-19-2015 , 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coon74
Not enough nuttiness even for a button overlimp, neither a ten-high flush nor a set of sixes are playable, especially live, they either win a small pot or lose a big one.
Well, the problem is more that the ten-high flush or a set of sixes represent the best typical outcome, one that happens about 15% on the flop collectively -- and then you have a whole bunch of worse outcomes.

The ten-high flush and set of sixes themselves are plenty "playable" -- i.e., if you had a theoretical hand that flopped some combination of a ten-high flush and a set of sixes 100% of the time, it'd fall squarely into the "premium" category. Only people who suck at poker would "win the small pots and lose the big ones" with it.
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06-19-2015 , 03:51 PM
Hero dealt Tc 2c 6d 6h
Hero clicks "fold to any"
/thread
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06-19-2015 , 04:44 PM
I will defend from BB vs BTN min bet out of vacuum - you can do things like cr cc into cr on 90% of flops then you ahve some flops you can extract a little with like 652

I might mine if getting 7:1 or something. But I have stupidly good skills so I can get away with it.
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06-19-2015 , 05:06 PM
In my opinion this hand even doesnt need more attention than fold button from any position. Even if you hit a 6 or flush, you will most likely be behind if you get some action.
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