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Originally Posted by wolfbook
Preflop: Nothing was done incredibly wrong by either player, although some improvements could be made.
I don't think it was a huge mistake by a human.
I'm not mad at a human for putting this hand in their 4betting range also long as it is most AAxx hands and a few other strong hands.
In general terms SPR 1 is the easiest to learn, if you hit a piece of the flop you most have to go with it, Hero should have check-fold flop.
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Originally Posted by MarkD
I think the four bet is clearly wrong. There are no combos of AK that we should be four betting that do not include a pair. I think this has to do with equally blocking AA and KK combos so we are unblocking all of the 5678ds type rundowns that we are 55/45 against, RROO:ds combos we are 50% against, as well as KK type combos where we are like 45/55 against. I think it's more to do with the fact that we have better hands to include in our 4-betting range that are not dominated by an in position 4 bet calling range.
Once we make this mistake and arrive at the flop with an SPR of 1 I really don't hate this shove. We can easily construct a range for the IP player where we have 30% equity on this flop (10%:AA@20, 10%!AA@100) so he need him to fold 3% of the time to our bet for this to breakeven. I agree, this hand, on this flop, is likely bottom of our range but it's not the absolute bottom as we do have a backdoor straight draw and a backdoor flush draw. I agree all top pair + hands are calling, but maybe something like AK56 will fold to our bet. I think this is a spot that it's easy to be very wrong check folding, but unlikely to be really badly wrong when we shove.
Also, I think we need to shove some hands worse than top pair here as we want top pair to call our shoves after we 4-bet.
Long story short - maybe we are shoving our full range here on this type of board after four betting?
Excellent post as always.
Where we differ is on learning level at PLO25. Low hanging fruit to grab and learn at SPR 1 is if you hit something thing go with it. Hell you could make a chart of reasonable SPR 1, but if you put this this hand in there, then you are just about saying play everything all the time. I'm not a fan. The Don't 4bet with AK probably low hanging fruit that should be learned sooner than later, but I stated, "I'm not mad at a
human for putting this hand in their 4betting range also long as it is most AAxx hands and a few other strong hands."
If the readers of my post didn't see trying to give humans some love, then forget I ever wrote it.