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03-27-2024 , 10:19 AM
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25 plo bomb pot. 9 handed. Hero has AsJsTc6c

Flop 225

9s8s4c
Ks8c5c

X, v1 reg (1,100) pots 225, v2 rec (covers hero) calls, hero (3,250 stack) calls, folds to v3 rec (2.2k) button who pots to 1,350, v1 calls all in for less, v2 calls. Hero?
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03-27-2024 , 12:18 PM
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Four way action is fine for our nutty one-way hand (our clubs are just blockers). I don't see much benefit from raising now, either cleaning up straight outs on our side or clubs (hopeless) and we don't want to risk worse spades folding. But V2 calling twice in bad position and having the stack depth with us makes me want to know more about him than "rec."

I think I'm just calling and playing pretty honestly ott, hoping to improve or call a small-enough bet closing the action.
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03-27-2024 , 02:18 PM
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Call again. Doubt we can fold any turns but sometimes checking it down will save money if Hero bricks both boards.

Whole hand looks standard, straight redraws and weak flush draw backup / blockers add quite a bit of equity on k85 board. And being able to runner runner something like aces up also matters.
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03-27-2024 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Munga30
Four way action is fine for our nutty one-way hand (our clubs are just blockers). I don't see much benefit from raising now, either cleaning up straight outs on our side or clubs (hopeless) and we don't want to risk worse spades folding. But V2 calling twice in bad position and having the stack depth with us makes me want to know more about him than "rec."

I think I'm just calling and playing pretty honestly ott, hoping to improve or call a small-enough bet closing the action.
V2 is independently wealthy, gambly, splashy. He probably would repot his most nutted hands. I think he calls too wide both to the bet he faced and if I were to jam. Any two pair on one board and flush draw on the other board, and maybe even lighter than that.
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03-28-2024 , 06:08 AM
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I think we have enough equity in bottom given our backdoor and maybe clubs ahead once in a blue moon. I would call flop again and reevaluate turns.
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03-28-2024 , 11:03 AM
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Flat and see Turn .. we have 'nothing'.

Obv a queen on either Board is lovely. GL
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03-30-2024 , 03:14 AM
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Spoiler:
I ended up jamming and it got in 4 ways. It turned out I was the only one with clubs, but I did just get half as nut spades got there. I did dodge 99 from v3. V1 had 55 I think and boated up on turn to win bottom board. V3 U don't remember exactly what he had, but I rivered a 6 on bottom and his K with Q kicker was good so we chopped the side.

My logic is I have 40-45% equity on the flop on top, which is 20-22.5% equity overall. Up against sets/two pair/draw type combos where some of the boat outs should be blocked. Then I have some backdoor stuff on the other board plus every once in a while clubs will be live to give me a couple % more equity that seems like it should be good enough to fo with 4 ways? Plus, it seemed more likely that clubs could be live vs v2 who I would have a side pot with. And some chance they could be live at in the side pot with v3 and v2 as well

I was worried my equity realization would be difficult on the turn, although I am always really skeptical that is ever a good reason to get it in.

Still not sure how I feel about this.
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04-09-2024 , 10:26 PM
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If v2 were a better player or just more aggressive, I'd be inclined to just put the money in on the flop. In this particular scenario flatting is better because it allows you effective last action on many turns with V2 padding the pot with his likely dominated draws.

Brick-brick turns, and many others besides, will check to V3 who will shove his remaining chips (as he should). V2 is very likely to call, and we won't need to fold much of anything getting around 8:1.

Also, if V1 is aware of how loose the other players are calling, him potting the flop with bottom set on one board and little on the other is a big mistake. Assume ALL villains are fish here.
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