Hello Everyone,

Been playing PLO for a while and I am starting to take it seriously here's a 1.1k hand sample. What inferences could be taken from my graph?
Looking for feedback, more so want to understand red line and blue line in terms of game play

Either you're amazing, the games are very easy, or you're running very hot, or some combination of all 3

A large part of that run good has likely been in the form of just having it in the right spots in the big pots versus being coolered or drawing and missing etc.

Money won without showdown, well, the higher the better, obv. Alongside getting paid with your hands, improving your winrate in part comes from successfully identifying the spots others underbluff, and thus you should bluff a higher frequency. It's also obviously lower variance for you when they fold, so it's nice to have just a constant(ish) up curve and then everything else falls into place around that. But it is possible to be a winning player with a down line, and it's not that it hurts necessarily, but might be leaving some money on the table if you just steal an extra pot or bluff a bigger pot.

Thanks, wazz that was the feed back I was looking for, I am still a recreational player so I am finding ways to tweak by game. Splashed around in the 500 PLO pool and got crushed. See graph below for very small sample. It's like at 500 PLO the true degens come out and call with anything even though I 3bet! enough pre...

Will probably start a thread putting in more volume, wish ignition had zoom because the tables are so slow sometimes but I plan to play at least 20k hands before the year is over. Definitely want to crush 200 over a solid sample and move up to 500 where the games are beatable.

nothing can be inferred from 1000 hands. that's about half a day to a day's play. maybe 8 hrs 2 tables, 6 hrs 2 -3 tables?

Nothing can be inferred from this sample.

Red line / blue line isn’t important to your own gameplay, and one can be positive or negative for a variety of reasons.

The only inference I can make is that you probably don’t understand variance that well.

Wazz doesn’t understand what he’s talking about.

I'm very open to being shown why I don't know what I talk about, but I don't take kindly to people attacking me without giving any justification. And if you, as the implication goes, do in fact know what you're talking about, it would be easy to demonstrate that, right?

I guess if you're a live player 1k hands might sound like a lot...but in the online world it is basically 0

You need at least 50-100k hands

I just don’t think it’s fair to newish players to come to a forum not knowing what’s good advice or not, and be given misleading points. Sets OP up to get absolutely MURDERED at 200PL.

So when you said 'wazz doesn't know what he's talking about' what you actually meant was 'there were a few times where I disagreed with him'. What value did you get by attacking me like that? You think you gain authority by virtue of tearing down mine?

Yes, 1k is an absurdly small sample, but the truth is likely some combination of the things I said. You even agree with me on some of the points you're supposedly in contention with - having a better redline is better, all else being equal.

Think you're oversimplifying the folding / variance question. Checking back strong hands sometimes can lead to more variance than straightforwardly betting for value and protection. Or creating a small bet range where we'd normally bet big.

When I talk about underbluffing, I mean that it's a +ev bluff that most don't take. For example, river raises are easy to fold to vs most because they don't bluffraise very often. Finding +ev river bluffraises will add redline.

So I'm still unsure over where you think I was misleading OP.