Hi all,

Hero is playing 1/2 plo with $5 bring in. A little history this session, hero showed a bluff river raise with Q7 on Q4467 and v folded Q4 face up.

This hand hero calls an open in MP with Q9876ds Q9cc 76hh and btn calls, V from earlier hand in BB 3! squeezes to $115, hero calls and btn calls. Btn is looser and V is a pro I believe. $550 eff.

Three ways ($375): 732csh. We flop top pair back door straight draw and two back door flush draws. So we basically have a two pair draw and our back doors. Bb checks likely AA-heavy range. We have btn behind us with $550 behind. Hero?

Thanks,
DT

you said button is 550 behind on the flop, are you and villain both also about 550 effective or is one of you shorter?

how aggressive is button?

honestly not a terrible spot to bet big as a bluff. yes you have a loose image having just shown a big bluff, but that also means you can credibly rep hands that connect well here, when most others shouldn't. so even though it's a spot where competent V knows that you know this is bad for his range, some Vs still won't call dry aces here for fear of being crushed.

very read dependent. also nothing wrong with taking a shot at a free card if button isn't too likely to bluff / semibluff. if V happens to have like AA456 here and checks to induce, good for him. PPT down but you're still probably ~30% to win and that's as bad as it gets. (is there another free calculator for 5 card out there? i don't play it enough to study it but would run some scenarios for this post if i could).

They're updating PPT so Odds Oracle is free for the rest of the year while they do that.

I'd pot and get in ftw

Putting in vs. AA and vs. 40% you have 33%.
vs. just 40% of hands and you have 50%.
vs. AA you have 43.5%.
you have some fold equity.
Going to be so rare they have 22/33/77 so I'm just slamming that **** in there.

Btn and V are slightly deeper; I am the shortest. I wish I knew where to find a ppt replacement!

I just mentioned it. Odds Oracle is the better advanced version of PPT. It's on the PPT website.

Yeh I think betting big is the way to go - we can fold some better hands and when we do GII our equity isn't bad.

Ok thanks. Results:

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Hero bet $325, btn jammed for $750 eff. folds to hero who tank folds (btn is tighter and showed a 7...). After hero folded btn showed the other 7, so unfortunately we ran into it.

You have to call $325 to win $1450 which is ~4.5:1. Need 18.3% to call. You have 18% vs. 77 and 18.6% vs. A4567. Seems like a somewhat bad fold if he can jam things like overs with his 7. Doesn't matter that he actually had 77.

Seems break even at best to me….I would rather not gamble with/pay off this nitty V in particular.

Do you think he ever jams a hands like AK456? A7654? if he ever does, it's a +ev call. Seems pretty obvious that he does at some %. There's a lot of A45 hands he can have and a few 456 hands. He should have a lot more of those types of hands than 77 as well. Like I said a somewhat bad fold. If you want to use math and ranges to back up your intuition of it being "break even at best", go for it.

i believe hero only has 550 on flop so he is calling 225 to win ~1250ish. don't think we can ever bet/fold here at that stack depth.

Bet/folding this flop is terrible.

It's also wildly optimistic to think we have enough fold equity to get through 2 players here often, I think should be a lower--frequency stab. Overpairs shouldn't really fold unless pressured by another big stack.

If we check it's mostly to call but sometimes folding if it stays 3w.