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06-12-2016 , 07:22 AM
Hero is utg AAs3s4 with $408 behind. Button has been raising %50 so looking for a limp reraise. UTG +1 opens, button calls, SB calls, BB calls, I pot it to $108.

Calls all around flop comes j1010 with two hearts

SB checks, bb checks, I check, checked around

Turn brings the 4 c

SB checks, BB checks, Hero?

Can i assume that SB and BB either missed or have jj/1010 type hands since they would lead this turn almost always with trips b/c of heart/straight draws?

The same goes for utg +1 and button on the flop no?

Do you feel these aces are too weak to limp reraise 5 handed?
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06-12-2016 , 07:22 PM
Against aggressive openers and a table of players that are calling with a high frequency limp reraises are pretty good because you can get a tonne of your stack in pre flop and unexploitably jam nearly any flop.

As played jam turn
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06-12-2016 , 08:44 PM
Idk how I feel about the flop... I'm GII a lot.. Other times I'm making a small 50-100$ bet, and folding to a shove

As played, jam turn 100% after its checked around on flop, then checked to you on turn
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06-12-2016 , 09:04 PM
Yeah, i guess the turn play is a pretty obvious shove which i did...but, a better question is am i betting the flop? I hate to bet smallish then fold b/c so many times i can be shoved on by hands i have decent equity against heads up like FD's and straight draws.

If i check and button or utg +1 bet am i folding?

If i plan on calling a flop bet, am i calling/shoving all non heart and straight completing turns?
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06-12-2016 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by biggirl0521
If i plan on calling a flop bet, am i calling/shoving all non heart and straight completing turns?

This is it right here, great question

I think because I have to fold on so many turns (any heart, any Q,K,9,8) it's best to c/r the flop... Shoving over any bet should be good to GII, taking comfort that most draws will lead this flop and few 10's will. Maybe JT will, but very few 10's overall. Also maximizing our v fold equity, cause some OESD hands might take a stab and fold.

So I think its well played. Good check on the flop. As said, obvious shove on safe turn card

If a scare card comes on turn, I think c/f should be fine.. The hands that would be bluffing those draws should still be ahead of your aces... Since I can only think of 3rd straight, low flushes, and T's that would turn their hands into bluffs by betting or potting those scare cards.
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06-20-2016 , 11:49 AM
presumably the action went u limped utg, utg + 1 iso'd for pot to $18 (it's not an open if someone else has already chosen to put money into the pot). with these stacks i prefer to just open myself, since it's not really a great situation if the action goes like (u limp, someone over limps, button pots and you repot, since your hand is now face up and there is still lots of money to bet). anyway, given how much you can reraise to LRR at this stage is good.

definitely have to check the flop. it's more than even money that someone has a ten. even on the turn I'm not convinced that SB or BB doesn't have a ten. they could have whiffed the c/r attempt and went for it again. JT can check with relative impunity as well, fearing only the rare 2 outer suck out.


there is 540 in the pot and we have 300 behind. surely if we decide to put any chips in on the flop we have to put them all.
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06-20-2016 , 06:51 PM
It's a spot that I agree with a couple of the above posts; if any of your money is going in OTF then I think it needs to be all of it just because there are so many turns that are horrible. I like to have some hands in my C/R OOP that aren't very nuttish, but I can GII with around 100bbs with good equity. I think by just cbetting in these spots you often allow your opponents in position to play close to perfect. I think C/R has merit here and as played I don't think shoving the turn is necessarily a slam dunk, but I think it's okay.
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06-21-2016 , 01:36 AM
I just shove the flop... I guess it's close but seems best. If youre not shoving this flop then there's not a lot of paired boards you are shoving.... It'd have to be like 22x-55x only which is probably too tight. I feel like k88 rainbow boards are better to check down as well. this flop has to be the most draw heavy flop that's paired possible so has to be the worst to let everyone realize their equity on.

I assume everyone who's checking is c/fing... I don't think c/c is ever better then leading unless there's like 1 maniac and a bunch of nits In the hand.

To everyone saying checking flop and leading safe turns is best I think they don't realize majority of hands that are ahead of us on the flop are nutted Jt/jj/tt and not betting flop or turn. I don't see how this would be a better line as your still almost always getting your money in when your beat still and not protecting as much equity. If I'm checking flop I'm checking down this hand and deciding whether or not to c/c vs certain villains

Last edited by smoothcriminal99; 06-21-2016 at 01:50 AM.
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