1-2 PLO $1,000 Cap eff stack $895 at the Wynn Las Vegas
Hero on BTN with Qd Jd 9s 7s, Pro UTG straddles for $10
LJ calls, splashy tourist in CO calls, I call on BTN and Straddle makes it $65. LJ folds, tourist calls and I call, basically looking to have position on the tourist.
Flop: Th, 8s, 3c, so I think I have a 16 card wrap (3Q, 3J, 3-9s, 3-7s and 4-6s) on a rainbow board. Pot is $200.
Straddle pro bets $110, Tourist calls, and I raise to $400. I have seen the pro go AI with an under set, and my only fear is a larger KQ rundown. UTG deliberates and calls, tourist folds. Pot is now $1,110.
Turn: Ad, which continues rainbow board, but now a K is good so this makes 20 card wrap. UTG checks, I go all-in for last $425.
Am I counting this correctly?. In the middle of play, I just knew that I had a big wrap that got better on the turn.
Comments?

It’s fine, you can also just call flop. I actually prefer calling without a pair. When you are called on the flop you need to improve even though you may be slightly ahead.

With the pot this large on the turn it’s ok to just ship the rest in now, especially since it’s a rainbow board. You have over 40% and spr is lower than what it needs to be to make jamming plus ev. If he folds sometimes, great. If you don’t think he’ll fold it’s also fine to take a free card since you are still putting in money behind his made hands now.

You are counting correctly, however it's worth noting that on the flop all of your outs make you the nuts, but when the turn comes, now your J and Q only give you the second nut straight.

You do not fear a larger KQ rundown on the flop. EDIT: you do in fact fear the larger rundown because it has more equity against you even than the hands with a pair or an A in, because it already beats you the same and now dominates when the A comes or can counterfeit your nuts. You fear your outs being in other peoples hands in the form of them having a hand like a pair and part of the same wrap as you, e.g. QJT9 is ~63% vs you.

Yes, you counted it correctly, but you have to do one more important step. You need to distinguish between total straight outs and nut straight outs. In this hand you have 16 straight outs and all 16 are nut straight outs. You have a monster draw. But it is possible in several situations to have zero nut outs. Having a lot of total straight outs, but few or no nut straight out against multiple opponents is a fast way to lose a lot of money. Start mentally counting the total straight outs and the nut straight out. In Hold’em the typical thought about straight is the 8 out open ended straight draw. But in Omaha that typical straight in your mind should be the 13 out straight draw on the flop and it completes by the river around 49% of the time. For more reference, a 17 out straight draw on the flop completes almost 62% of the time by the river. But there are a few surprising examples of a lot of total straight outs with zero nut outs, therefore it is important to mentally say both numbers to yourself to see where you stand in a hand. I’ll try and catch all of the possibilities below. The first number on each row is the total straight outs followed by the second number which is the nut straight outs.


20 14

17 14
17 11
17 7
17 0

16 16
16 10
16 6
16 0

13 13
13 10
13 7
13 6
13 3
13 0

12 12
12 9

9 9
9 6

8 8
8 4
8 0

4 4
4 0

Yeah, one of the first things in online PLO that I trained myself to do and do perfectly every time (an amateur practices until they get it right, a professional practices until they don't get it wrong) was to count up both my outs to improve and outs to the nuts. This is particularly valuable and important in multiway and flush draw spots, which we will face frequently. Combining this with looking up equities and working out the value of redraws i.e. comparing how a 16 out wrap fares against a set vs how it fares against just a pair, leads to a stronger intuitive sense of equity.

There’s plenty of what ifs and stuff, like from experience when he flats your raise the A improves him a ton.

But yeah I’m just raising flop and jamming turn, only thing I can think of really is can we sometimes raise flop smaller to give us a bigger FE boom stick on turn and maybe convince AT etc to fold.

Was thinking same maybe to 285 or so would setup where you can jam a brick turn