9 players $15 each pot $130

Hand Qc 8s 7s 3s

Board 1: Ts 6s 5d
Board 2: Ks 4s 2s

Hero on the button.

Action: check, check, Bet $130 with about $150 behind, fold, allin $175, fold, allin $125, folded to hero with about $350 ... hero?

Snap fold.

Yeah, thanks. That's exactly what I did and would do it again without hesitation. But I'm inexperienced at PLO, so I took one final look at my hand, and my neighbor saw it - I didn't really care. He told me I folded the winner, probably for both boards. So, I made him a side bet that I was beat ... which, to my amazement, I lost. That damn hand would have won both boards.

The thing that gets me is two of the other guys are decent (for that game) no-limit players.

You have the bottom flush. Yes it's certainly sometimes good, but more often it is not, and when it is you need to fade board pairs and hit your draw on b1.

For me it's a fold and congrats on making some EV from your neighbor.

TBH this is a tough one to pass up. There's 8 spades accounted for and we do have 11 nut outs on top if our flush is ahead, 6 if flush is behind.

We are risking that the $280 stack has us dominated with a better flush .. that's the worst case scenario. Otherwise we should break even a lot in the side pots with over 20% chance to take the top Board as well.

BP are about having the nuts .. not drawing to it. So technically, yes, this is a snap fold. But the facts ..

1) Only 5 spades out there and the odds of another Player having 2 are pretty low
2) Plenty of Pot Odds drawing to the Straight nuts while spades are either our friend or we have them crippled, which adds to our equity on the top Board.
3) The problem with BP is your Pot Odds are 50% of what they normally are with the split pot.


As a pretty conservative BP Player I may not have been able to avoid this one. Nothing grinds me more than seeing a 'below T' flush win a pot and here we are knowing that spades are already crippled. GL

Sorry, but I'm not folding -- at least not against the guys I play with. I just put it in. However, the guys I play with are terrible at these Omaha DBBPs.

Bigger flush is out there most of the time in bomb pots, pretty standard fold.

Don’t really play BP’s but I’d be fine to get it in at these stakes if I had a wrap instead of oesd up top. Would cry fold this hand.

Preface: this is an edge-gambling strategy forum and playing bomb pots flies in the face of that. Also, I think this might be bad advice so I'm just telling you what I would do here and the method to my madness. I have also played hundreds if not thousands of this type of bomb pot from $15 to $150 pre, and I tend to do very well in them.

If I have a few bullets in my pocket, I'm never folding here for low three figures.

Hear me out: There are five spades left, 9 unseen cards left in the deck, one unseen burn, and 32 unseen cards in villains' hands. Distribution wise, this means that almost a quarter of the remaining spades should be in the deck or burn. (1) So if you distribute the four spades not expected to be in the deck or burn across eight villains, you have a low likelihood that somebody else has a made flush, and 1 spade possible to come, with 50% of the time it comes on the bottom. There's also a 10% chance that expected remaining spade in the deck was in the burn.

I could not do the math behind this but my common sense tells me that we're expecting a lot of sets here given the action, so that lowers the likelihood of the board pairing as well. I think this setup has all the makings of really crappy hands taking down the pots, and I would not be surprised if you told me you GII and scooped.

I would also say that if you're not going to at least entertain spots like this, you might as well not play bomb pots, because you'll just be dumping $15 at a time and folding almost every time.

Just my 2¢.

That’s how you play bomb pots. You dump 15 dollars 12 times then free roll a 5 way all in.

Your spade distribution analysis ignores that multiple people are going all in. For example if this hand checked down I bet the odds our flush is good is extremely high.

I know that's a good point but another good point is the fact that once money starts going in, it's a frenzy, and we don't know if these people know what they're doing. I've seen a lot of times where holdem players don't understand they can only use three cards on the board, no matter how many times you explain it to them. (Forget about hand strength.) I would personally be gambling here that people got it in with sets and straight draws instead of flushes, since flush outs are taken, which make sets more likely. Feels like a coin flip to me. Or I could just be a gambling moron. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I ran a sim, and at least one other player has a flush on the flop roughly 46% of the time.

And based on the action, it should be much higher.

Interesting, thanks. What did you use for that?

So many spades and an open ender...


I guess kk** and nutfkushes and TT**

If you're button.... Fold pre and it's not even close. Omaha normal... Sure, limp and flop qq8* once in awhile.



The chances of flipping a hand that can more than split a two Baird game... It's a fold pre and not even close.

As is what is utg+2 and other villains doing??? You have scoop potentshall but prolly still a fold.




Really depends on

You're at best winning board 2, at worst dead. Board 1.... If spades are live;

4 or 5 spade outs if 5s is live


Also;;;;-

9 and 4 nut outs might be less 9s than 4s of multi way all in.

Very low chance no 9s unblocked.


So you have 9-11 live outs for 1/2 pot if your lucky. 4-5 quarter pot outs at worst

&

At best ~63+% versus sets
Worst dead.



Pot is 130$ limped NINE-way.


280

175

125



You cover.


You need to quarter pot against 125s

175 is 50 more...

So must 1/3rd pot versus 50$

Heads-up is 105$ must win ++50% to turn a profit



Sorry.


Fold pre and don't listen to your mate who soul read situation post decision. He did !not know that you had the best hand until you folded///called. Just like Phil Ivey versus Tom Dean with A6. Tom knew Phil couldn't call because he would never have a value bet called again.

TF is a bomb pot???

PPT Odds Oracle.

Bomb pot means you can't fold or raise pre so the fact that people showed up to the.flop for 15 at a 1/3 holdem game is no indication of what they had. Regardless of your analysis above, our friend above showed us that it's 54% that our flush is good and so would the top one be if we hit, so I'm not convinced this is an easy fold with the oesd redraw on top with all the spades gone in a pot of this size. Plus holdem players are usually way out of their depth on hand strength (and sometimes mechanics) in Omaha so all of a sudden you're against a table 90-100% full of fish if you actually play PLO for real. It's so juicy I really can't fold there against that field unless I'm underrolled.