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Originally Posted by SocraticGambler
You make a good point about 4-betting ranges and why AKK10 perhaps OOP isn't the best one because of the dynamics.
Yeah, i look at it like this:
1. I have good kings.
2. The hand is not ds, only ss
3. The ace doesnt really play, only as a blocker for someone else having aces
So i play a high pair, and plan on winning the hand with either hitting a set of kings or with some kind of board pairing so that my kings up beats someone elses 2 pair
It looks really strong, but hey, there's already enough money in the middle, we are all deep, i'm oop ... why blow it up even more with that hand?
That's my thinking, might be wrong pure GTO wise, but i'm comfortable that way, not pushing small (if any) edges and reducing variance, and that's also very important
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Originally Posted by SocraticGambler
sometimes in poker we get stacked no matter what, this might be one of the cases but the dynamics from the turn really made it an odd spot.
Yeah, good one, to that regard i got another one for you:
Yesterday's game, good line-up, one really aggro (but good) guy in the mix, he always plays super deep (covers the biggest stack), and puts you to the test constantly when he smells weakness;
So, the hand, game is 10-10 today, i play 2800, aggro guy over 10K, other stacks around 1 - 1,5K:
UTG someone open 40, i flat with AQQ2 (A2 hearts), another caller, aggro guy min 3bets to 80, UTG calls, i call. Pot is 250
Flop AKQ (2 clubs).
It goes check, check, aggro guy bets pot 250.
UTG folds, i flat. My thinking: He has it (j10), or he plays blockers (jj or 1010), or he has some flush draw with a gutter or a pair or something. So raising doesn't really makes sense ( i either loose or make the bluffer quit), but can't really fold here with middle set. Agree everybody?
Turn offsuite 5.
I check, he pots again 750
So i have like 2450 in front of me now, meaning, if i call there's almost a full pot bet left on the river. Can i fold here? Do i have to actually?
Decided to go with my read and history i had with him and put him on the bluff. Call.
River 2 of clubs:
I check, he pots (allin for me)
So, now i think:If he had j10 from the start (without clubs), he would check behind now (showdown value)
if he had j10 with the clubs, well, what can i do.
Or, he was playing that bluff i mentioned earlier all along, some kind of combo bluff/drawing hand.
What do you guys do now, call or fold?