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1/2 straight and flush draw on flop 1/2 straight and flush draw on flop

02-06-2010 , 06:48 AM
Party Poker $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 520159
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UTG: $164.04
MP: $304.20
Hero (CO): $209.00
BTN: $578.10
SB: $155.50
BB: $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with K K 2 J
UTG calls $2, MP raises to $9, Hero calls $9, 3 folds, UTG calls $7

Flop: ($30.00) T 8 Q (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $28.00,Hero ?

he is playing 24/17/8/1.8k cause we are 3 on flop and its a drawheavy board he got at least two pair QT or better

what i gonna do?
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02-06-2010 , 09:14 AM
this sucks If u think he just has 2 pair than i would get it in your hand does really well vs 2 pair. (even vs J9 your hand does decently well)

I think it sucks cause theres still anothr player to act. I prolly jsut pot it up and hope he shows me the nuts.

AS long as nobody has bigger fd than your fine
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02-06-2010 , 09:15 AM
reasons to not play hands without nut draws is so u can avoid these tough decisions

if u have king high fd or better here its jsut auto get it in
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02-06-2010 , 09:16 AM
start by calling
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02-06-2010 , 09:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by koOma
start by calling
def an option but what do u do if utg pots over in this spot and mp folds/calls
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02-06-2010 , 09:31 AM
I jam
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02-06-2010 , 09:34 AM
agreed
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02-06-2010 , 09:56 AM
if he gets it in with this range we have o shove the flop with all the dead money:

board: qhth8c
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
kdkcjh2h 48.13% 281,681 14,147
j9**,kjqt,qq**,tt**,AA*h*h,Ah*hA*,khj*h*,88*h*h 51.87% 304,172 14,147

not really sure how 2nd villain changes this but i doubt it makes a big difference.whats our plan if we just call the flop and hit a heart and get action?what if the turn bricks?
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02-06-2010 , 10:11 AM
reasons to not call lol Have plenty of equity to just run flop
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02-06-2010 , 11:43 AM
yea, i'd certainly raise rightaway, you don't want additional callers in there.
if you just call and hit a heart i don't think you can do much more than c/f, mb put some money in on the next street.
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02-06-2010 , 12:37 PM
Even if UTG (mostly J9) jams and MP calls ...

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: Th8cQh
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
KdKcJh2h36.39% 206,88323,384
(J9** & 20%)29.16% 133,59083,201
(QQ** & 50%), (j9** & 20%), (AhKh*J & 20%)34.45% 170,05073,716
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02-06-2010 , 12:41 PM
def start by calling, can rep many turns and we are ip
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