Villain I have marked as average. Doesn't have any crazy tendencies 25% VPIP. They might view me as a bit spewy (not sure)

Hero has 100BB
MP has 100BB
Villain OTB has 200BB

Preflop: Hero has T T 3 3 UTG
Hero raises to 3.5BB, MP calls, 1 fold, Villain calls, both blinds fold

Flop: K 5 3
Hero bets 9BB, 1 fold, Villain raises to 39BB, hero?

My thinking is that it's such a dry board. Is it possible that I might be up against something like AK54? I guess, but I'm not sure. What would you do in my spot?


I am playing around with the Monker Solver regarding double paired hands. It seems that pretty much all double suited hands are played from UTG and some single suited ones? The solver says I should fold QQ22r UTG. Do you guys usually fold unsuited double paired hands that are disconnected?

I fold TT33ss UTG and I check this flop.

I wonder what Monker tells you to do on this flop?

Still haven't been able to get it working postflop at the moment. I am just looking at preflop ranges at the moment.

But you bought the preflop ranges right? So you are just using it as a viewer?

I am able to play around with preflop ranges. But still having trouble with anything beyond that. I am trying to spend time to get my preflop ranges very tight.

Is this a full-ring table? My experience has been that you generally fold all pairs 6 or under. So JJ55 is a fold, etc.

The problem with the smaller pairs is you'll either make a non-nut set or if you have the nut set, now you have to worry about possible straights being out against you. They're just long-term money burners.

I would make an exception for AAxx or KKxx with suitedness so I have something else to strive for, but that's about the only time I'm VPIP'ing with double pairs containing 6's or lower in my hand.

The simplest answer is fold .. You opened UTG and your c-bet with a rainbow K on the Board just got blasted!!

Sure you can go down the rabbit hole and try to decipher the mind of the 'average' PLO Player ..
1) How often do you have them crushed? AK54 .. AA24 (if even possible) .. KQ5x-ds
2) What could you be flipping against? Does V have these types of combos at 25% OTB?
3) How often are you crushed by 55 or even KK?

Some Players just aren't willing to fold a set, even bottom set, against a Board like this one and will ride the variance for 100bb or less. My issue is that you don't have much, if any, backdoor equity and you're also not blocking anything that could improve your opponent.

Does this 'average' V really think you're bluffing here? Or c-betting with Kxxx 'often'? If you can find enough times where this V shows up with #1 combos and they assume your c-betting AAxx then you 'can' re-pot here.

I guess I can also add .. Is this a value 'pot' or an equity denial (go away) 'pot' bet? Does the average PLO Player really think that blasting KK/55 is the correct move here (at this table) against your supposed image? Does the average PLO Player really blast away here with a wheel wrap?


You're putting in 88bb to win 110bb .. I'm not one to flip here a ton, so we need to find a pretty big imbalance between crushed and crushing in order to continue here. GL

My 2cents; we are heads up OOP vs a guy that thinks we are spewy and we have the top of our range.

I think in position and closing the action a competent V can do this with enough bluffs and worse value?

I’m flatting the raise and I’m trapping.

Related; we are 3 handed which is unusual. I think opening this 3 handed is ok and I would, but would be interested what a solver and/or end boss does?

Also given that it’s 3 handed I feel like we should be even more inclined to go with our set.

Would be unusual for a V to not 3bet KK pre 3 handed?

I would also expect on a flop this dry KK to just flat a ton.

It looks like this is a 6-handed based on:

Thanks, can ignore my comments about 3 handed then I guess.

i fold TT88 one suit UTG, sometimes 6677 ds, wonder if its a big leak.

its usually gonna be a multiway pot with worst position, so middle set will be ... troublesome. Also, pairs most of the time only flop naked set, if there is any flush redraw its a weak one.

OTF, I think I gonna bet 1/3, 1/2 to deny some equity and give us more clarity to play on the turn. 0% check cause any free card is awful.

As played, its not really that bad? V can have some two pairs with K + nut bdfd. The leak comes from not hitting set, or hitting a set on a garbage board - 95% of the time

Anyway, I have read some of your recent threads and imo u are over analyzing neat spots, those that give tiny edge and much headache. Only top pros should really care to look into those.

Think its a matter of will he raise like this with K5/K3 - if he raises bare 2pr like this then GII, if his range here is nuttier like kk,55,k467,etc then its a fold.