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Old 07-27-2010, 10:02 PM   #101
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

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Not rooting for Grinder one small bit at the ME FT now after seeing this.
ya. he shows very little class, a lot of ****ty play. the only thing i liked was his taking out Baker, who comes across as an even bigger tool on tv.

learn how to dress + go easy on the "$5 footlongs", you donkey jackass
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:03 PM   #102
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

wins Mizrachi style
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:04 PM   #103
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"we did it baby"

rofl
I was thinking the same thing... haha I'm doubting the two of them go over strategy every night but whatever.

As bad as Grinder played I would have to imagine that there were dozens of hands he played really good that got cut out. That being said he luckboxed his way out of every major hand so thats not really saying much.

Regardless gg Grinder, gl in November!
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:04 PM   #104
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

That whole all-in thing with Robert and Grinder felt so staged and self-important. Plus Grinder played so awful. If he wins the ME we should all start playing Scrabble.
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:07 PM   #105
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

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That whole all-in thing with Robert and Grinder felt so staged and self-important. Plus Grinder played so awful. If he wins the ME we should all start playing Scrabble.

scrabble is a skillgame tho.. you mean we should play yahtzee?
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:09 PM   #106
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scrabble is a skillgame tho.. you mean we should play yahtzee?
More like craps, the way he throws $ around
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:20 PM   #107
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

[x] still wants grinder to win ME
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:23 PM   #108
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

Editing aside, the grinder showed some pretty bad leaks.
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:28 PM   #109
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

Wonder will Grinder watch this and think "Everyone now thinks when I call oop then lead out on the flop I have air, so in November I'm going to lead out with monsters and trap everyone. I'm a genius!"
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Old 07-27-2010, 10:40 PM   #110
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

CANT WAIT TO WATCH WEEEEEEEEEEE
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:02 PM   #111
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

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Editing aside, the grinder showed some pretty bad leaks.
Yeah I know it's a hack edit job but man the Russian destroyed him and lots of other bad spots.
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:06 PM   #112
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

chino rheem was the worst part of the show, easy.
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:12 PM   #113
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

Big surprise after watching this that an action junkie like Grinder would owe lots of money. I consider this broadcast an insight into his recklessness and impulsiveness.
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:16 PM   #114
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

For all the Canuck's Also on TSN
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:24 PM   #115
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Bakes > Opie

And Chino Rheem on these telecasts is AIDS. He may be an alright guy but he just comes off as a mega douche chanting Grinder and giving little pep talks in between hands.
Bakes> All (in 5 years)
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Old 07-27-2010, 11:25 PM   #116
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

Is the only this we are going to hear about during every tourney is how the winner played terrible and just got lucky as if thats not already know.

I think by now everyone knows you have to get lucky to win a tourney. We don't need to hear about it every time there is a tourney on TV.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:23 AM   #117
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

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Editing aside, the grinder showed some pretty bad leaks.
And the sick thing is that he's definitely a winning player at the WSOP (tho prob not the 50k and some of the fixed limit 10ks)

live tournaments baby
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:32 AM   #118
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

I know they weren't that deep but I think the play was pretty bad all around. With Bakes stacks I hate the open with K 10 especially with these players who are likely to flat.(i know it's edited so possible his raises were getting through often)

On the Q 10 x ss board I'd much rather lead/fold or check/call once and be done with the hand. The Q just hits mizrachi's flat range so hard vs an utg raise.

Also, what's with players calling out cards that don't immediately help the(bakes calling out the 9 diamonds) when he needs the Q for a straight with his AJ vs Grinders AK.

Oppenhiemer played terrible in blind vs blind with grinder. His raise on the river with J 7 after floating the turn is just awful. Just raise pre or bet flop and be done with it. Terrible board to represent anything with that play.

Grinder's AQ vs Oppenheimers set of 4's on Q 4 x board seems like an easy c/call him down since Oppenheimer opened utg and is very unlikely to action from better hands if he raises.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:40 AM   #119
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

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Also, what's with players calling out cards that don't immediately help the(bakes calling out the 9 diamonds) when he needs the Q for a straight with his AJ vs Grinders AK.
If I remember correctly a 9 of diamonds would have put a 4th diamond on the board (allowing for a flush to chop since neither player had a diamond), as well as give him more straight outs on the river.

besides a Queen the 9 of diamonds is the best card in the deck for him (if I remember correctly)
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:43 AM   #120
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

Watching the replay on ESPN2...
It's annoying how they keep referencing "Mix Game" and Chad is talking about how that's such a great format, so and so's specialty isn't NL, Mix Game play has been this/that.

BUUUUUUUT

You the audience are too stupid to follow anything but NL, so that's what we're doing here.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:44 AM   #121
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

Since this morphed into a strategy thread, I thought Mizrachi's overflat after UTG open and UTG 2 (Juanda's JJ) flat with KQoff and like 14bbs was horrific. Sure the flop comes Qhigh.....why not? Not saying I am folding, but overflatting is beyond awful, even in live poker where people flat absurd stacks.

Oppenheim is pretty nitty and Grinder should know that, so calling KQoff to a cold 4bet was bad. When playing the 100r on Stars shorthanded, it is a fistpump call, in the 50K with livepros, it is an insta-muck.

While I am criticizing.....Juanda flats JJ with 30bbs, and open ships K9 utg with 20bbs. Makes Sense.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:48 AM   #122
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

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If I remember correctly a 9 of diamonds would have put a 4th diamond on the board (allowing for a flush to chop since neither player had a diamond), as well as give him more straight outs on the river.

besides a Queen the 9 of diamonds is the best card in the deck for him (if I remember correctly)
I get that. if you're going to call a card call the best one, not the 2nd.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:51 AM   #123
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

LOLZ at Moon's "I'm a player" commercial.
What a dork...
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:06 AM   #124
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I get that. if you're going to call a card call the best one, not the 2nd.
fair enough lol
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:43 AM   #125
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

Anyone know when this will be up online? Or if it is up somewhere already
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