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Old 08-01-2010, 12:22 AM   #301
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

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Yeah during the initial live reporting it was mentioned that Schemelev seriously believed that they rigged it to give Mizrachi the win, lulz.
This sounds like some sarcasm may have been lost in the translation.
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Old 08-01-2010, 02:52 AM   #302
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Let's get back to grinder's wife...she was lookin good
yap she's cute lily elviroooooooooooo

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Old 08-01-2010, 06:09 AM   #303
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

havent really watched any wsop on tv other than ME do they always show positions?
Epic that its actually playing on aussie tv (pay tv :P)

juanda, mizrachis, alaei, oppenheim such a sick table
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Old 08-01-2010, 06:10 AM   #304
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

Nevermind, had a problem, fixed

Dont love the new graphics but meh they arent bad, probably a touch too bulky

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Old 08-01-2010, 09:02 AM   #305
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

This was the first WSOP on ESPN broadcast that showed all the positions.
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Old 08-01-2010, 09:07 AM   #306
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Is there a site where I can watch it? I missed the televised version and I tried pokertube but none of the videos are available. Any ideas?
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Old 08-01-2010, 09:08 AM   #307
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Yeah the graphics are a little too large and too dark also. Just a tad. But oh well.

Pokertube has it, as well as pokercast, as well as youtube. Hell, it's everywhere.
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Old 08-01-2010, 09:14 AM   #308
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

Grinder's wife is the hottest woman I've seen associated in any way with poker. Lucky fn basket!! And I bet he didn't have to say a word, she pulled him on looks alone. sigh

Having sed that their body language towards each other was awful, wot a lame "u did it baby" no eye contact walk straight off again at the end, mmm I may have a chance

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Old 08-01-2010, 10:05 AM   #309
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Grinder's wife is the hottest woman I've seen associated in any way with poker.
Seriously?

Was the Nekotyan comment a level?

Grinder was angling for Subway sponsorship.

Some of the most bizarre play I've seen.
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Old 08-01-2010, 02:51 PM   #310
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

the grinder got so lucky.

the russian played quite good but got unlucky.

lol, donkaments.
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Old 08-01-2010, 05:20 PM   #311
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Grinder's wife is the hottest woman I've seen associated in any way with poker.
What? Erika Schoenberg and Shana say hello.
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Old 08-01-2010, 09:07 PM   #312
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grinders wife will divorce him in november
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Old 08-01-2010, 10:35 PM   #313
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Grinder's wife is the hottest woman I've seen associated in any way with poker.
You must not get out a lot. I play in live casinos maybe once a month and I've seen better looking chicks at my own table.
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Old 08-01-2010, 10:36 PM   #314
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

I have weird taste. Ur standard plastic barbie doesnt do it for me, Grinder's bit has an element of aggressive look about her, I love all that shiz

I just checked out that Schoenburg bit and eww totally plain and blonde, no taaaa very muchly
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:45 PM   #315
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I have weird taste. Ur standard plastic barbie doesnt do it for me, Grinder's bit has an element of aggressive look about her, I love all that shiz

I just checked out that Schoenburg bit and eww totally plain and blonde, no taaaa very muchly
Completely understand. I hate the plastic Barbie look myself. I'm getting grief for thinking Gail is hotter than Padma on Top Chef. It was in jest but someone wanted to ban me because I suggested that Padma would be filing her nails asking if you were done yet while boning her. DO NOT WANT!
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Old 08-02-2010, 04:58 PM   #316
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Top Chef? wtf
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Old 08-02-2010, 09:40 PM   #317
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He said "First hand. Cold Deck". First hand after a short break, and board runs pretty good for both players, so if it was no preflop all-in, they would go all-in on the turn or the river for sure.

And he's not an "amateur", he s/n is NEKOTYAN on ftp.
Really? No wonder he pwned Mizrachi's soul...
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:32 PM   #318
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Grinder make one decent play at this FT so far?
He played the 32o rivered trips well.
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:35 PM   #319
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Is the only this we are going to hear about during every tourney is how the winner played terrible and just got lucky as if thats not already know.

I think by now everyone knows you have to get lucky to win a tourney. We don't need to hear about it every time there is a tourney on TV.

It's not the fact that he got lucky, it's the fact that he played nearly every hand that got televised quite poorly.

The only hand he played "well" is the 3 3's hand and possibly the T8 hand (but that's to be debated).

This is supposed to be a good player. He looked like a ****ing donk.


Also, the c/r with AQ on the Q45r flop and then bet a large bet, call a large shove on an 8 turn IS HORRENDOUS. "How can I fold?/Could I get away?" ARE U F SRS? What hand did he expect oppie to turn over and be ahead.

Also, the fold with trip 9's with K kicker on a board of .. 799T3.. ARE U F SRS? Cuz he can't have J9/Q9? ??? no, he just has 86 all the time. I could understand folding if u have like 96. but K9? WOW.

Also, the call with KQo vs OPPIE's 4bet shove is pretty bad. Let me show u how bad:

He has to put in 2.7 into 4.2 which is 1.55 to 1

needs a little bit more than 39% equity to call profitably, and he prob needs more since ICM and everything...


Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.156% 33.25% 03.91% 812992488 95534376.00 { KQo }
Hand 1: 62.844% 58.94% 03.91% 1441108872 95534376.00 { 55+, ATs+, KQs, ATo+, KQo }


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2,013,669,504 games 1.906 secs 1,056,489,771 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.854% 34.53% 00.33% 695242896 6610464.00 { KQo }
Hand 1: 65.146% 64.82% 00.33% 1305205680 6610464.00 { 77+, ATs+, ATo+ }


Awful call. and the comment, "I put u on 88" gtfo, u did not. if he turned over QQ, u'd be like oops.

Don't even get me started on his HU play.

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Old 08-03-2010, 12:03 AM   #320
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Shame that MM won because that Russian outplayed nearly everybody at that table. I mean was there a hand where you ever thought, "Man that Russian guy is an idiot"?
the Q5 hand he played awfully.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:36 AM   #321
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

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It's not the fact that he got lucky, it's the fact that he played nearly every hand that got televised quite poorly.
How did he play the hands you didn't see, i.e. how did Michael Mizrachi play the majority of his hands? We cannot and do not know.

Somehow, Mizrachi - who has $7 million+ in lifetime tournament winnings - donked (according to you) his way to the Player's Championship title, and to the final table of the Main Event, both in the same WSOP year.

If this is really true, which I don't believe, then we should forget about Mizrachi and ask ourselves whether tournament Poker is something we should bother playing or caring about.
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Old 08-03-2010, 01:51 AM   #322
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How did he play the hands you didn't see, i.e. how did Michael Mizrachi play the majority of his hands? We cannot and do not know.

Somehow, Mizrachi - who has $9,613,917 in lifetime tournament winnings - donked (according to you) his way to the Player's Championship title, and to the final table of the Main Event, both in the same WSOP year.

If this is really true, which I don't believe, then we should forget about Mizrachi and ask ourselves whether tournament Poker is something we should bother playing or caring about.
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Old 08-03-2010, 02:01 AM   #323
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Blue, I'm not about to say that MM is an awful player, all I'm saying that a ton of televised hands that were shown were played terribly.

Also there is a TON of luck in tournament poker. More than you will ever realize.
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Old 08-03-2010, 03:50 AM   #324
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Blue, I'm not about to say that MM is an awful player, all I'm saying that a ton of televised hands that were shown were played terribly.

Also there is a TON of luck in tournament poker. More than you will ever realize.
I'm not about to say there isn't a "ton" of luck in tournament Poker.

I will say there were not quite a "ton" of hands televised involving Michael Mizrachi - more like a handful than a "ton." And, accordingly, it's unreasonable, if not simply irresponsible, to conclude he plays awfully, or like a donk, even when you do acknowledge he isn't an awful player.

Dissecting, analyzing and discussing a hand for the purposes of edification is one thing; lambasting, ridiculing, and judging a player, based on *ahem, cough, cough* an extremely small sample size of observed hands, is another.
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Old 08-03-2010, 06:14 AM   #325
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Re: WSOP on ESPN: $50,000 Players Championship, July 27 - 8-10pm ET

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Is the only this we are going to hear about during every tourney is how the winner played terrible and just got lucky as if thats not already know.

I think by now everyone knows you have to get lucky to win a tourney. We don't need to hear about it every time there is a tourney on TV.
Well... Sure, but this was downright Goldesque.
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