Dealer accidentally deals player with missed blind button. It's noticed during the pitch, before any action.

How does your house handle this situation?

Do you:
A. Kill that player's hand and play out the rest?
B. Misdeal
C. Other (explain)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Misdeal if It was noticed before any action

Our room just kills the player's hand and continues.

Still pitching = misdeal

ask the player if he would like to post, if not, move the card to the next player.

"Real Rule" ... misdeal if still pitching ... And listen to all the moans from the players who got Aces. This can actually stretch 'post-pitch' to the significant action rule in order to still be declared a misdeal ... nice angle opportunity there for sure.

"Real Life" ...
1) Player is asked if they want to post, if not then dead hand and keep pitching.
2) Declared dead hand by dealer and keep going, no option.
3) If player has looked at first card before posting, then dead hand no option.

Seen all of these happen, lots of times .. GL

I think if he peaks he should be forced to post.

You generally can't force a player to put money in the pot.

Kill the hand if the player looked is really the only rule that doesn't give him a freeroll.

Rule in my room:

In OP's scenario the player could post and play or the hand is dead. Assuming he hasn't looked at the cards yet.

That's true but kinda moot here since the floor could tell the player to either put in the blind or get kicked out. Who risks a ban from the casino over one big blind?

I agree with the rule that suit posted from his room though. Just saying that the floor could get 99% of players to put the BB in if he wanted to.

kill the hand look or no look.

If player opts to post without looking, let them.
If player plays hand without posting somehow, mandatory post next hand.

so if I'm the natural big blind and forget to post and muck my cards, I can't be forced to put money in the pot?

I think if the guy looks, he should post. He has a missed blind button, he knows he needs to post and just because the dealer didn't officially offer him to come in or not, he shouldn't get to decide whether or not to post based on how good his cards are.

Maybe it's not a written rule anywhere, but if it was up to me I would force him to post after looking at his cards.

This would give him a freeroll.

Hide the MB button so you keep getting dealt in and then fold until you get a hand you like an then post. Can't do that.

There is a rule. I posted it a few posts up.

Just as psujohn said. Playbig, you have to kill the hand if the error is caught. This isn't a "let it slide" situation, nor is it a "no harm" situation.

Your rules works very well for people with a missed blind button, but not the BB.

You can't kill the BBs hand if he looks at his hand without posting, because then the next player would have to be the BB, and he may also have already looked (and possibly acted), since he thought he was UTG.

This is why the dealer should not deal past the BB until it is posted, or the player acknowledges he will post it. It can lead to a situation where no one is the BB, and you can't force anyone to post it either.

I don't know if a lot of dealers are familiar with this rule since I've seen them let players post after looking at their cards (even when they say they're coming in but don't put the money up before looking at their cards).

If they verbally commit to posting, that is fine, although it is preferable to actually put the money in first just for the optics.

Just curious bc an issue came up when talking to friends and when I polled floors from different areas of the country, I got different answers. I've always been taught to kill the hand, but in some places I guess they misdeal the whole thing.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

At least 4 times last night during a 2-5 game the BB mistakenly mucked when he thought he was UTG ... and then meekly put in his red chip.

Agree this can be avoided if the dealer pauses after first pitch round. Every dealer is different on how they handle blinds. Some only tell the BB and figure the SB will follow by default. Some will address either or both .. et.

As a player I appreciate a 'very' active dealer at 1-2 but as the stakes increase I don't think it should be up to the dealer to keep player's 'as much' in line due to the assumption that these are more experienced players. GL

The SB is not as much a problem. (1) they will have just been the BB, so it is rare that they want to not be dealt into the hand, unlike the person in the BB, which is the most natural place for a player to suddenly want to be dealt out, (2) you can have a hand with only 1 BB (in dead button rooms, anyway), but you cannot have a hand with only a SB.

I understand that the bigger games have more experienced players and need less handholding, and an experienced dealer will learn to read the table better, but the worst cases of douchebaggery I have witnessed have come from these players. "I didn't put my BB out, why did you deal me a hand? Of course I wanted to be dealt out!" followed the very next orbit by "Why didn't you deal me back in? You should always ask me if I want to come back in!" and other nonsense like that. *******s.

Varies by table. I've dealt 1/2 games where I didn't need to say a word to manage the game because the experience level across the board (and attention if not) was sufficient; and I've dealt very high limit games where I've had to babysit every bet every street to keep the game moving....and was expected to do so.

By the second turn I'll know what I'm dealing with and have made 95% of the necessary adjustments to optimize my style for the game.

I think this is just a matter of the dealers/floors not really knowing the rule so they just do what they think is correct and any of those things seem reasonable even tho their rulebook may say different. I would bet most rulebooks will say exactly what mine does.

The opposite. If he looks before pisting at me n the hand is dead. You dont get to see the first A and then get to pist.

Happy Cinco de Mayo, Fore.

^^^ you too!!