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Originally Posted by michelle227
There are certainly $1/2 and $1/3 games that play like larger games, but the reality is that other than blinds, the most use many of the players have for the $1 chip is tipping. The use of predominantly red and green chips does not mean the game is playing like a larger game.
That being said, anyone that believes live games function in the raises should be 2.x times the BB is simply not making the transition to live in a manner that will allow them (generally) to succeed. Seeing limp/call of a raise to $20 or $30 with QTo in live is just standard at some tables. Other tables, a raise to $7 gets folds all around with the raiser getting the blinds.
I play mostly 3/5 now; not sound all bragadoccio, but I don't put myself on the 1/3 list because I feel I'm out of my element there...in both good ways and bad. But I watch my friend as he'll often sit 1/3 while waiting for 3/5. Here's two examples:
#1 - 1/3 - max 300 (100BB)
UTG: $6 straddle
HJ: Hero (friend) flats the $6 with KJo ($500)
CO: V1 raises to $35 ($600+)
HJ: Hero calls $35
Aside from critiquing my friends play, I asked him if he would ever call $60 OOP after having limped a $10 straddle with the same hand in 3/5. He says no...but then shrugs that he would call $35 and so he feels its the same thing and the stack sizes and situation are often the same in 3/5 so only there's only $10 (blinds + straddle) in the pot here vs $18 - the $8 difference is small enough to ignore he says.
#2 - 1/3 - max 300 (100BB) (about a year ago)
UTG: Hero (me) raise to $15 A
-K
($500)
UTG+1: V1 call $15
MP2: V2 call $15
HJ: V3 call $15
BTN: V4 call $15
SB: V5 call $15
In most of my 3/5 games, a 5x raise from UTG doesn't often end up taking off the flop 6-handed. But here, I hear a lot of people says, 'eh, its only $15' and carelessly flick out the three reds. With $93 in the pot, I feel like I'm going to have to adjust my post-flop play dramatically and/or hope to hit the flop much stronger than normal. Also, with two relatively shorter stacks still in the hand (~$100) they're not priced out from much even though they're still sitting on ~30+ BBs. I know game flow and other factors can affect how people are playing so I'm not discounting that as a factor.
I guess the flip side is this: If you're averaging $30/hr in both 1/3 and 3/5 games, you're crushing 1/3 at 10BB/hr and right in the zone for expectation in 3/5 at 6 BB/hr. And, if my BR is $15k, then I'm 50 BIs for 1/3 and 30 BI for 3/5 meaning adjusting play and risk (of ruin) formulas for the 'bigger' game.
The $30 spends the same away from the table, so are you better off in one game or the other?
Last edited by sam7595; 04-20-2018 at 02:51 PM.