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11-24-2009 , 06:49 AM
I really enjoyed seeing Howard exposed by Phil Ivey as the chiseling, nut pedaling nit that he is when Ivey turns him down for an insurance bet on his all in vs Ferguson by telling him.."I'm not gunna bet you because you never gamble with me ....you have to give action to get it.."

Fittingly, Howard misses his draw,and Ivey wins his bet on Ferguson's hand with Doyle.

Howard is visibly pissed and is a complete douche bag to Leeanne during his exit interview.

Why do have to be forced to watch this douche bag play when we tune in to watch great players like Ivey and Doyle?
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11-24-2009 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bobby777
I really enjoyed seeing Howard exposed by Phil Ivey as the chiseling, nut pedaling nit that he is when Ivey turns him down for an insurance bet on his all in vs Ferguson by telling him.."I'm not gunna bet you because you never gamble with me ....you have to give action to get it.."

Fittingly, Howard misses his draw,and Ivey wins his bet on Ferguson's hand with Doyle.

Howard is visibly pissed and is a complete douche bag to Leeanne during his exit interview.

Why do have to be forced to watch this douche bag play when we tune in to watch great players like Ivey and Doyle?
What episode was this? Or even better, link?
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11-24-2009 , 11:48 AM
I dont remember this episode. if it was the one with PA, Durrr, Zig Ivey and ELi I never heard of such a convo
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11-24-2009 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetto
I dont remember this episode. if it was the one with PA, Durrr, Zig Ivey and ELi I never heard of such a convo
The sit n go with Daniel, Hellmuth, Ferguson, Ivey, Doyle and Howard.
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11-24-2009 , 12:40 PM
Insurance in a SNG?
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11-24-2009 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Insurance in a SNG?
Remember it's a winner take all event, so effectively it's a cash game played until everyone is broke.
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11-24-2009 , 04:06 PM
old. rerun is airing this week.

found it hilarious ivey tried to get lederer to bet against himself.
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11-24-2009 , 04:29 PM
If I remember correctly Ivey bets 10k with Doyle on the hand. Howard has a flush+straight draw and Ferguson only has top pair. Howard says he wants to bet too and Ivey says he doesn't wanna bet with Howard cause he has never gambled with him before.

Howard then says (like a a little girl fwiw) "Ok give it to doyle, give the action to Doyle". Ivey then says "What are you gonna lay? Lay 11/10, 110k to 100k and you got it with me". Phil Hellmuth says "One Hundred and ten thousand. Wow"

Howard then says "I'm not gonna lay 11/10 when you just bet even with this man". Ivey then owns Howard Lederer by saying "I'LL LAY 11/10 ON YOUR HAND".

Doyle claps his hand and nods his head also when Ivey says this. Howard doesn't take the bet, loses the hand and busts out of the tournament. lol
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11-24-2009 , 04:31 PM
no naked pics of howard then? this thread disappoints.
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11-24-2009 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by intclock
no naked pics of howard then? this thread disappoints.
thread title should be changed. that was also my first reaction when i saw the thread title
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11-24-2009 , 04:58 PM
Haha, awesome.
Link to the clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Z9r...eature=related
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11-24-2009 , 04:59 PM
think this is the pot?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7ceB0MCmt4&NR=1#t=5m20



edit: yup, thats the one. they get it all in here,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7ceB0MCmt4&NR=1#t=7m52

and the side bet action ensues after

Last edited by Nutcracker19; 11-24-2009 at 05:05 PM.
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11-24-2009 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bobby777

Howard is visibly pissed and is a complete douche bag to Leeanne during his exit interview.
really?
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11-24-2009 , 06:19 PM
He wasn't rude at all.
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11-24-2009 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ab160
really?
Crazy how some people only see what they want to see.
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11-24-2009 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bobby777
I really enjoyed seeing Howard exposed by Phil Ivey as the chiseling, nut pedaling nit that he is when Ivey turns him down for an insurance bet on his all in vs Ferguson by telling him.."I'm not gunna bet you because you never gamble with me ....you have to give action to get it.."

Fittingly, Howard misses his draw,and Ivey wins his bet on Ferguson's hand with Doyle.

Howard is visibly pissed and is a complete douche bag to Leeanne during his exit interview.

Why do have to be forced to watch this douche bag play when we tune in to watch great players like Ivey and Doyle?
what are you smoking. i just watched it and he was completely fair in the interview with leanne..
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11-24-2009 , 06:34 PM
by the thread title i thoght someone pantsed HL and he wasnt wearing any underwear
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11-24-2009 , 06:47 PM
I guess in NY NY being polite and soft spoken and honest is considered being a douche? Guess he shoulda thrown in some "know what I'm sayin"s and cursed some.
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11-24-2009 , 06:55 PM
howard is a huge dog after phil takes chris' side haha. and OP howard not rude at all.
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11-24-2009 , 07:55 PM
Wow, that was a rel sh%t storm HL unleashed on Leeanne. I'm surprised she made it through the week.
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11-24-2009 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDre715
Crazy how some people only see what they want to see.
this

Ivey was out of line for exposing his joy after the turn and river are bricks. "Bang" and "BAAANNNGGG".

Howard showed class and left. Yeah he was pissed, he just lost 20K against a guy who stacked off with A rag. The interview at the end was ok... I don't get it why so much peole hate Howard Lederer. His sister is a douche, yes, but he's got class. He sucks !? He has 2 WSOP and 2 WPT titles more than 99.9% of the douches bashing on him.
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11-24-2009 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by vividrose
this

He has 2 WSOP and 2 WPT titles more than 99.9% of the douches bashing on him.

vivid, although i agree with your entire post. This part takes the prize. In a game where results prove a lot, i don't believe anyone here can speak down on the man. he wasn't ignorant in the interview, he actually took the beat fairly well in my eyes considering his possible hands
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11-24-2009 , 09:05 PM
is has been mentioned before but

Howard is visibly pissed and is a complete douche bag to Leeanne during his exit interview.

lol
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11-24-2009 , 09:41 PM
Funniest part was Hellmuth patting him on the back and saying "you got your money in good kid" Priceless.
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11-24-2009 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDre715
Crazy how some people only see what they want to see.
You?

Howard is possibly my least favorite famous poker person. Yet, in that clip, he was not as you described him. He was not "visibly pissed". I think he was very surprised and probably a little upset, but def. not how you said. Also, in his interview, he was not at all a douche to the lady. Not at all. You think because she said what was the thought process and he said there was no thought process, that he was insulting her? Or even correcting her? No, it was the only way to answer the question. There is no thought process when you are super short and you flop tons of outs to the nuts. He could have said it in a condescending way, but he said it in an analytical way (and he's not being all flirty or smiling, but he's not being mean, either). Looks like YOU read too much into it.
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