What percent of rooms would a hand like q10 v. 1010 qualify for badbeat jackpots in most rooms on a qq1010q board?

Hands have to be natural and AAAKK or better to qualify.

I have no idea about the answer to this as I don't play much live and certainly don't listen to old man coffee conversations.

None. There are FIVE Ten's in your post.

I hope you mean AQ vs TT on a QQQTT board

No Jackpot where I've dealt.
Must be pocket pair for quads.

Many places including at least the four closest to here make both cards, both hands must play the rule. But they do not insist quads be pocket pairs.

IME it is close to a split on requiring pocket pairs for quads. very few if any dont at least make both cards play

I think the OP is trying to get at - if the room has a both play do "ties" count. So like for a high hand where both cards must play QT is good on a QQQTT board - ie the T in the players hand plays even though it's equal to the T on board.

You might very well be correct. To answer that, in the rooms where quads do not have to be a pp that I have seen, a kicker that ties the board plays.

2 questions I guess.

1. Do you have to have a pocket pair and make quads to qualify? Varies by room, mine is no.

2. If the answer to (1) is no, then if your kicker ties the board, does it qualify? Again probably varies by room but my room is yes. I think it would be a severe KITN if it went according to suit of the kicker. Totally unfair.

The nearest casino to ours has a harder qualifier both based on the hand (8s v 5s), and because the pair is required there.

How could it be unfair? You might not like it. But its not unfair. The rule applies equally to everybody its not unfair. (that being said I have never heard of a room using the suits in this way)

Not in the room I play regularly.

I'm an idiot, this is what I was trying to ask.

QQQTT board. QT vs. TT

You don't have to have pocket for quads, but both cards have to play so the kicker thing is ambiguous. I was curious what some people have seen in different rooms with bbjs.

Again, if your deck has 5 Ts, the hand is ineligible for the jackpot.

How about QQQT9 board
and the hands are QT vs JK

My example only has 4Q and 2T

To answer the question tho ive never played in a room where quads qualified with only one of the hole cards. A high hand yes it would qualify but for BBJ its always both cards and for quads its a pocket pair requirement for both hands.

Oof, my brain is broken.

Yes you've lost it and won't rescue it now!Good to know I'm not the only one who could do this. At least you came back to the thread

Other than using suits for ties when opening a table to locate the button suits do not play in poker. Two players showdown with AK. The one with A spades does not win over the A of hearts. Heck there can even be an argument on the order of suits.

I don't recall playing in a room where a tied kicker did not play. But I have definitely have never played in a room that used suit ranks during the gamez

To confirm. Where you play, BBJ quads do not require quads be a pocket pair to qualify but a kicker that ties the board, like an ace in your hand for your kicker with also ace on the board. Your are saying the hand would not qualify because the ace kicker in your hand does not play.

Hey doesn't the ace in your hand play for your kicker? Holdem is a game where the best 5 of 7 cards. What makes the ace on the board "better" than the one in your hand? Why can't you choose to play the card in your hand? What rule of poker precludes this?

I can understand a rule requiring a pocket pair. But once you choose to allow three on the board plus one in the hand to qualify with quads, I can't see a tied kicker not qualifying unless that was specifically a BBJP written rule.

Suits are used in Stud to determine the bring-in if two players tie for the low card.

It is sometimes the tie breaker in stud. Highest card by suit.

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The West Palm Kennel Club uses suit as a tie-breaker for determining the high hand winner in the event of two people both having the same straight flush. If two people both have the same 4 of a kind hand with the same kicker, then they don't bother looking at the suit of the kicker... it's just a split jackpot.

Miccosukee Indian Poker used to use suit to determine who got an extra chip in a split pot rather than giving the extra chip to the player closest to the button. I believe they've done away with that rule.

And just about every room I've been in uses suit to break a tie in the event of a table breaking and players drawing cards to see who will get to move to an empty seat at another table.

As far as bad beats go, I typically see that pocket pair is required to make quads and a kicker is irrelevant.

Do not need a pocket pair for quads - yes.

Kicker in hand may not tie board kicker. Ace in hand, ace on board, not eligible for HH. House rule.

In almost all rooms where you do not need a pocket pair for quads, this hand would qualify for the BBJ. I personally don't know of any rooms where it would not qualify, but that doesn't mean there are none. Some rooms have weird ppl making decisions.

Huh? You can't have the same 4 of a kind in stud, and the only way you can have it in holdem is with the 4 of a kind on the board....and I can't imagine any room giving a jackpot for a hand with 4 of a kind on the board.

I think he's talking about tied for a high hand jackpot not tied in the actual hand.