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05-30-2019 , 11:21 AM
Hi All,

Having recently transitioned from a barely breakeven cash player to a barely breakeven SNG player, I am unsure about push/fold strategy. Should I be following push/fold strategy religiously or taking into account player tendencies? Which HUD stats are most important for deriving these tendencies? Also should I still be attempting steals with mid (c. 12-15) stacks? Many thanks for any help or input that you can provide.

Simon
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06-02-2019 , 10:32 AM
Meet the above in the middle.

Have a fundamentally solid push/fold game and then use whatever info you have on your opponents to adjust your strategy. Having a solid knowledge of what constitutes a close or marginal situation will help you out when dealing with different player types. A lot of push/fold spots play themselves, but that doesn't mean you cannot adjust vs different player types when things are close.

Yes you should be stealing with 12-15bb stacks but again look at your opponents before you do. Are you been flat called a lot or jammed on a lot? How much fold equity do you have preflop? Can you profitably jam your hand if you are going to raise/fold it? Does your hand make more money as a raise/call than an open shove? Or a raise fold vs an open shove?

Lots to consider. I would hammer a decent SNG solver and get your push/fold game down, then go from there.
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06-05-2019 , 06:24 AM
I agree aslo you have to deduce if ur opp is weak enough for u to be able(or kane) to chip away at his stack. Would hw only call a jam w/the nutz or close to it. Is it profitable for u to jam all ur weak holdings w/out deveating??
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06-07-2019 , 12:55 AM
As FanculoFan and UltimateGrinder33 have already mentioned you ought to be able to adapt situational given how many players are left, stack sizes, player tendencies, etc. Yet it can be difficult to adapt without the fundamental of ICM push/fold strategy.

What helped me was nailing down my ICM push/fold strategy as if I was playing any situation in a vacuum. In other words I didn't account for player tendencies, my image, reads, etc. A great way to approach this is to look at every hand and ask yourself "is it more profitable to shove or fold?" When doing this mark spots where you are unsure for review after the SnG is complete. Tools like ICMIZER can help you review and really get good at understanding ICM push/fold strategy in different spots. And when looking at ICMIZER be sure to guess what you think push ranges and calling ranges ought to be before running the simulation. It will make you think about it more actively rather than just looking at the output of the program.

Once I improved my ICM push/fold strategy I expanded my questioning. I rephrased my initial question to "if I can only shove or fold, what is more profitable?" And after answering that I would ask "is there an alternative play that may be more profitable over shoving/folding?" This is where you really start focusing on the situation of the game, reads/histories, etc.
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06-12-2019 , 01:23 AM
What helped me was nailing down my ICM push/fold strategy as if I was playing any situation in a vacuum. In other words I didn't account for player tendencies, my image, reads, etc. A great way to approach this is to look at every hand and ask yourself "is it more profitable to shove or fold?" When doing this mark spots where you are unsure for review after the SnG is complete. Tools like ICMIZER can help you review and really get good at understanding ICM push/fold strategy in different spots. And when looking at ICMIZER be sure to guess what you think push ranges and calling ranges ought to be before running the simulation. It will make you think about it more actively rather than just looking at the output of the program.

Once I improved my ICM push/fold strategy I expanded my questioning. I rephrased my initial question to "if I can only shove or fold, what is more profitable?" And after answering that I would ask "is there an alternative play that may be more profitable over shoving/folding?" This is where you really start focusing on the situation of the game, reads/histories, etc.[/QUOTE]

I have to ask how long have u been playing and have u been playing MTT's or just Sitngos
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