With a 4 table cap on bovada, what format would be most profitable per hour at the computer? I want to try and maximize volume and edge while not getting too killed on the rake.

Options:
$10+1 turbo 9max
$12+1 reg speed 9max
$12+1 6max turbo
$10+.50 6max Super Turbo
$10 +.75 6max reg speed
$16+1.50 6max reg speed BEGINNER (3 spots paid)

I feel that I have a strong edge in these games. Over a 100 game sample I am a clear winner at the 6max and 9max turbos, but that doesn't mean much. 80% percent of the player pool has zero concept of stack to blind ratios. So I am leaning toward the slower speed tournys. It's just tough to get in enough volume to overcome downswings when each tourny takes over 45 minutes and you are capped to 4 tables.

It's not unusual to still be in the first blind level and have 6 players remaining in a 9max reg speed. If I could get in more volume there is no doubt the 9max reg speeds could be crushed, but at only 4 per hour I don't know how profitable these could be. The traffic is also poor at the 9max games. So it may be even less than 4 per hour.

There is no rakeback or promo for generating rake on Bovada.

I play 330 0.50$ 9men turbo SnG,plan is to play 1000.Can you tell me what is my "lap time" good,bad,solid... and WTF is that STT rebay I didn't play that?
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Hi. What is the best strategy for 4max hypers? These that start with 500 chips, 10bb and winner takes all. I guess it envolves a lot of shoving, right? How do i estimate how wide to shove and call?

Which book is good to get the fundaments for stt or normal sitng??

I am interested into getting into 6 max hypers. What training materials are out there for this and what kind of roi's are possible at various stakes? Also, is there a specific hud I can download that you would recommend for 6 max hypers?

Colin moshman: sit & go strategy

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I think stts are easier to master and you can get some decent sample rather fast, mtts can have bigger payouts if you start out running hot.. I had the same question and I've started out with stts.. I am not sure if my answer is valid though

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Variance is higher on MTTs obviously. You should have a lot of buy ins prepared for your BR. I guess you should be asking yourself what you have the most fun with as a beginner (you have to study A LOT and keep motivation up, so the format you have the most fun with is desirable for that obv.). If it's SNGMTTs then do that, but as mentioned consider the swings you will experience and the droughts you have to go through without payouts. What's easier is just to broad of a question IMO. If you find evidence that most successfull regs play STT, theres no guarantee you will experiance it, too. It's all work ethic and goal setting I guess.

good luck

I noticed pt4 also has a ICM calculator. But I can't figure out how to interpret the screen with the outcome.. Anybody knows where I can find decent information about that or about how ti work with it ? There isn't a video from pt4 itself and google doesn't help..

I've never used a ICM tool before.. Can pt4 do what icmizer or SMG wizard do?


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Hello,

I was wondering what would be an ok ROI for the 6max HyperTurbo Sats (2 places paid a ticket) in Stars?

Im currently playing the 7.50 buy-in and the priZe is $22.

Thanks!

Hi , i play 6 max turbo sng , i need to improve my heads up game any tips or links ? I`m not sure if i should look into heads up games or 6 max heads up is there any difference in strategy...? probably not...

Headsup is always the same. Just stacksizes will differ, depending on format and what not.

Here is a very decent e-book (its free), which should get you started.

Where to get advanced stuff?

They're theoretically the same, but there are pratical differences: HU players tend to be better at HU then 6m/9m/whatever else players, s.t. population tendencies differ. Plus you usually don't start with equal stacks in a non-HU game, which also influences the behaviour of bad players. While the relevant stacksize for decisions is the effective stacksize, this isn't what ppl actually base their play on. Some ppl might show tendencies like being wider with the larger stack because "they can afford it" or being tighter with a smaller stack because "they don't want to bust".

Hi
Just a quick couple of questions from a newbie.
When we are talking about downswings of 10 or more buyins does this mean not cashing in 10 or more in a row. I had a particularly bad session last night over 30 tourneys and finished up $18 down which equates to 12 buyins.Am pretty sure i didnt bust out of 12 in a row,in fact i cashed in the last 3. Would just like to know for when i check my history then i can say 'oh i had a 8 buyin downswing there' or whatever.
Secondly a bankroll question. Have been playing 2 months or so and built up a bankroll of $120 from $30 playing STTs on 888. Decided to deposit on Pokerstars to take advantage of a promotion but had to withdraw some of my roll from 888 to cover it however it took nearly a week for the money to appear. i now have a total of $190 spread over both sites which is enough to move up a level. I plan to cash out of 888 and put the money on Stars as soon as i clear my bonus on 888 but realise this could take a week. Should i treat these as 2 seperate rolls and stick to the $1.50s for now. I know this is probably a personal choice scenario but would like to know what you guys would do.
Thanks in advance. Dave.

Downswing = net change in bankroll after results
Thats why you want 50-200 buyins, depending on game and stake, so you will have money left over after your set is done.

Since you are not relying on playing today to feed yourself, you can count them as one bankroll. Ofc if you run a little bad in the $3s you should drop down fast or you will not be able to play while the other cashes out. If you haven't started the withdrawal and aren't opposed to playing on 888 again if the stars shot goes back, then you can play the $3s until you have a roll on both sites.

Really I guess what I would most suggest for you is to play a little on both while you clear your bonus on 888. Play maybe $3s on both sites or mix $3s and $1s. This way you clear your 888 bonus fastest while deciding if you really want to move to stars or not. As long as you are playing low buyin and can get action, there are pros and cons to both sites. If you lose more than $90 (total between both sites), you need to go back to the $1s until you get get back to $150 again and give the $3s another 20 buyin shot. This is really safe and you have pretty much no chance of busto (if you are a winning player and) if you keep 100 $1 buyins behind.

Don't forget the most important thing while you are playing low buyins is to develop good study habits and grow as a player. You are clearly thinking hard about your bankroll so sound like you are on the right track.

GL and have fun

Thanks for the advice Regret$, really appreciate it mate.

Got a decent deposit bonus on titan and it looks like there is abusively high rake on the low stakes SnG's, its like 20% of some of the formats, what do people suggest for a hyper turbo grinder who wants to grind of his bonus.

Hey guys,

Thought I would get your opinion on a bankroll management question I've been having. I've read the literature, and have studied SNG strategy a lot over the past couple of weeks, so I'm aware in general you want a 50-100 buyin for a particular stake.

Right now I'm playing a mixture of $3.50 and $7 buyin turbo 6 max SNGs. Average buy in is $5.25.

However, my bankroll is not static since I do give myself $200-300 a month for poker, so I don't necessarily feel like I need 100 buyins to move up to a mixture of $7 and $15 for an average buy in of $11.

Right now I have about 120 tournys of data over 3 weeks. My ITM is about 40% and ROI is about 30%. Thanks to a phenomenal session I nearly doubled my bankroll last night from $80 to $140, so right now I have about 28 buyins. I know this isn't a long period of time, and I'm playing at very low stakes, but I wanted to verify the SNG strategy I adopted works first. Still going to play these stakes for a little bit longer, but given that I can add a few hundred per month to my bankroll, what minimum buyin should I have before I move up in stakes? 50?

The counter argument I have is to let my success at my current stakes build my bankroll to where it needs to be to move up, since this frees up a few hundred per month for live tournys or cash games or whatever, but not sure if that's just being overly conservative. What do you guys think in so far as when to move up?

Just drop down to the $1s until you beat them. Play for fun and to learn, the stakes don't really matter. Not saying this to be negative, but you sound like you probably don't beat the $3-7 games yet. You might break even in the $1s or make a little money. I'd play those until you get upto $200 or so, then take a $50 shot at the $3s again. If you bust it back to $150 then go back to the $1s and get your sword sharp.

Don't be afraid to post some hands and join the discussion about different spots. The best way to learn is explain what you think and try to figure out why you don't have the same answers as other players. There are a lot of spots posted over the years, so search is good as well.

Good luck.

Actually I'm beating the $3/7 buy-ins very well...not sure how ITM 40% and ROI 30% would translate to not beating them since a good ROI is between 12-15% from what I've read and I'm well over that (probably not sustainable but definitely far from negative). I was actually wondering when to move up because I'm crushing the $3/7 so bad it's obvious the SNG strategy I studied from SNG Planet works well, but given that I still only have like 28 buy-ins, in the short term I'm not moving anywhere since that's not even close to 50-100.

One thing I do always wonder is how aggressively to play big slick early in the game. AK, especially off suit, just doesn't play well in multi-way pots and at the $3/7 levels there's still a lot of limpers, so commonly what happens is if I'm in early position I raise to 3 or 4xBB and get like 4 callers. If I'm in late position, I see 2-4 limpers in front of me, and if there's a raiser in front then to get rid of the limpers, unless it's on the first level or two it's at the point where if I 3-bet (which of course I should to protect my hand) I might as well just shove since I'm pot committed once I make the obligatory C-bet anyway. I figure at least this way unless someone was tricky or passive enough to limp with AA or KK, I'm at worst a coin flip if someone has a pair or a favorite to win the hand if anyone calls with 2 lesser cards.

How do you guys treat AKo or AKs in the early stage? Easy shove on the later stage in most instances but earlier stage not really deep enough stacks to overplay that hand and recover. I play turbos on Carbon so we get 1,500 starting chip stack and blinds start at 15/30.

Regret$ was just trying to help you learn. I think he was referring your tiny sample size. Alot of people play that many in one session.

This is a very general and vague question. AK play like all the hands we play early. 3x + 1bb per limper. Don't get committed early, learn to give it up if you dont hit. You can't win a tournament at this stage, but you can easily lose. Read Collin Moshman. It will help a lot at your stage. Read it, play more, read it again, ... , $.

Hello guys. I've been playing cash for a long time. I am pretty bored with cash at the moment and decided to switch.

I will try the 6max hyper turbos for a while. I am planning on starting with the 10+1 ones wit 250bi bankroll. I feel pretty confused still. Can you suggest some material that I can read or can you give me some general suggestions.

I find them pretty interesting and I think they can be a good way for more significant bankroll boost in a shorter period of time. I think it's good because I can put a lot of volume. My current RB deal is 70% so I find them a good option. What do you think.

Thank you.

Fair enough. I've experienced some wide swings between SNG #100 and #160 and it's definitely enough to shake loose any thought of even considering moving up in stakes now. I'm still holding steady at ~ 17% ROI but I think I want to get to a 100BI bankroll before I think about anything else.

Thanks for the tip on the book, will download and start reading. Looks like it has great reviews.

If u don't need the money for living expenses I don't see any problem with moving up underrolled.