and another one.

i see alot of people have made money from super turbo's and hyper turbos?!?

i cant find these on stars!? are they on FTP?

where are they? what levels are they at? and how turbo is SUPER and HYPER?

It's not difficult to use, but it is easy to use it incorrectly! If that makes sense.

Do NOT dive into SNG wiz without first going through all the tutorials and understanding about adjusting villains calling ranges, otherwise you will cost yourself a lot of money.

One thing I would say is that if you are in any way serious about making money from sngs, then you simply have to have sng wiz - it is a bargain.

No need to sign up to anything, you get them automatically. Stellar rewards will be credited direct to your account in cash, and FPPs can be used to purchase things from the VIP store, some of which are cash bonuses. From time to time Stars run other bonus schemes such as reload bonuses etc. which are redeemed as cash direct to your account based on how many VPPs you accrue in a given time period.

Was wondering if I could be told my average hourly rate by someone, or given the formula. Preferably told (Brain hurts from 2 outers).

8 tabling $11 9 man's - 15% ROI all time ($2 - $30 Buy in)

I play in sets so assuming 8 take an hr, usually a little longer, but I fig this could be rounded.

I fig some of you math wiz's could help me out with this, TY.

Let's assume you run at 15% for $11s and each take an hour. Your hourly is:

.15 x 11 x 8 ($13.20 an hour--congrats on your heater )

Basically, it's ROI x buyin x amount of STTs per hour. You should figure it for each buyin level, because averages can be very misleading.

which one are you referring to exactly?

TY I very much appreciate it.

So I was messing around with numbers and to reach the same hourly at the $5.50's you would need a 20% ROI and 12 table. Wondering which route to take as I 12 tabled tonight and I really didn't notice that much of a difference between 8 and 12. But I do know that the players at the $5.50 level are generally awful and a 20% ROI is very realistic for a solid reg.

12 the $5.50's or 8 the $11's?

If only I knew I could hit 20% at the $11 level

Monkey banana thanks for the straight forward ICM explanation. I got bogged down by terminology I think.
You say the move is -Ev in dollars. But is it not a no-brainer to try and elimate the short stack when we are getting close to favourable odds?

Thank you very much for take the time to comment. Much appreciated.

Both targets seem somewhat unrealistic to me but obviously not completely impossible. I'd use lower figures because surprise feels much better than disappointment.


If you use a program like SNG Wiz, its calculation includes the value of knocking out the shorty. In general, unless the player we're knocking out is very good, we don't need to concern ourselves with doing it. This is one of the many mistakes our opponents make and we can easily avoid.

Are the knockout sngs on Stars going to be profitable? It's a 7.5% or so vig I think.

Yes, they'll be very profitable at first.

I'm a noob and I'm wondering if there is a way to cash out your tokens on FTP steps progam

I've worked my way up to having 2 step 3 tokens but my BR is only $42 so the step 3 tokens are worth more than my entire roll, is there a way to trade the tokens in for cash or do I have to play these step 3 games?

You can't cash them out. You can however play in tournaments with the equivalent value of the tokens.

Remember, they aren't turbos so your hourly might not be as good.

This type of question belongs in the basic question thread, for future reference.

Hi everyone, so I'm kinda new to playing in sit and goes and am playing the three and five dollar ones on stars. My question is what would be a good strategy for getting chips in the early stages. I've read some other threads and it seems that its best to play very tight early on, but this usually leaves me as one of the shorter stacks needing to shove/fold when the blinds start to get high. Thanks for your help.

Seriously, learn to love it. It's the best way for a novice to play. Sometimes you will get a fish to double you up when you bet a strong hand hard, but you will often be one of the shorter stacks. You talk about needing to shove/fold like that's a bad thing, but that's where we tend to get our edge.

Two things I think it's important to note: one, even the best players finish out of the money roughly six out of 10 times, so it's no big deal to take risks with say 1200 chips. If you double, you're in good shape. If you go bust, oh well, that's one of the six. Two, you must make the most of your strong hands early. Don't play them timidly. Hammer the fish hard when you have something. They love to call, so let them have the opportunity.

i played a lot. And i do not think Iam playing bad. got 2 graphs here:

EV graph since I play 18s 6,5$

$ graph


Help me out...Normal variance? Sick downs imo and sick ups...dunno why iam wasting my time playing BE

any comments?

Monkey Banana,

I've ran about 700 $5.50's (obv not a super big sample) and have hit almost 20%... 18% or so without a HUD. Adding a HUD I fig will generally add a percent or 2 when properly used. Obv it is too early to say, bc sample is not the biggest but my main point is that the $5.50's are super crush-able. I feel the step up to the $11's is where you start having decent regs, and people who have a clue of what they are doing.

You may want to switch to Stars for the 11s. They're significantly tougher on Tilt. It may be that the gap is greater on Tilt and the 5.5s a bit tougher on Stars then. I dunno. Never played 5.5s on Tilt at all. So I hope your heater continues ;-) but do move up. You'll doubtless improve for the experience.

Hey guys, do you know how i cant change my hud stats on players for every level ?

For example, you know most people are super tight early levels(10/20,15/30 etc), but they become much much more loose when the blinds hit 200/400 or 300/600 for example.

How can i set it(HM) or is it there any other program which can do this(Tourney manager?) ?

Thank you very much

You can't filter HEM by blind level, but you can filter it by number of players. Open up HUD Options and under there is an option called "additional HUD filters".

If you filter by number of players, this will usually correspond fairly well with their actions according to blind levels.

I have my filtered for something like 2-2, 2-3, 4-5, 5-7, 6-9.

I was wondering if anybody solely grinds in double or nothing tournaments and if so, what is your ROI?

no money in DoNs, everyone's solid