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04-17-2012 , 08:34 AM
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I think calling here is OK. But i'm not that good at poker so don't take this as golden truth.

I have a question for this thread:

I have a SNG Wizard and I want to know if it is possible to put my SNG game into the wizard (to show me correct moves and wrong ones)?
I can't seem to figure it out. Thank you for any help!
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04-22-2012 , 10:30 AM
Been playing a lot of 6max $1.50 hyperturbos recently. I was trying to openpush 77+, A9+ even in 10/20. In which, sometimes the table is incredibly soft and I got called by worse A-rag, even K-rag. On other times it is extremely tight, that when I'm called I'm almost always crushed. Is it a profitable strategy to do so?
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04-22-2012 , 04:19 PM
Hi,

I'm sure this has been asked a thousand times and I had a quick look but couldn't find what I need. I've been playing uNL for a couple of years (not with much success I may add) and I've decided to change my game to 6 max STTs. I'm trying to find out the best sources of information to learn about STTs and I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction...

I'm looking for books, ebooks, videos (on DC or otherwise), websites/strategy posts, coaching or anything else that you might be able to point me towards!

Cheers,
Beef
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04-23-2012 , 12:25 PM
DC/sitngogrinders for the video material, and for the books.. Collin moshman sit & go strategy's book is pretty cool
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04-24-2012 , 03:21 AM
few Q's about turbo knockout sngs on stars:
does HEM track the bounty's correctly?and does sharkscope?
is it true they are far more profitable then the standard 9max-turbo sngs?
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04-24-2012 , 10:23 PM
I don't think HEM has ever counted bounties correctly lol. SharkScope not sure, but I'd go with probably.

Far more profitable? No.
Generally a bit more profitable? Yes.
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04-25-2012 , 06:35 AM
Sorry if this has been addressed many times already but couldn't find an answer straight away...
I noticed there are big jumps in the levels of hyper-turbo sng's on PS.
Playing the $1.50 for some time now. Finally feel bankrolled enough to move to the $3.50 but they are non-existing. So what does this mean for the quality of the games at the $7 level. Are they much tougher than the $1.50's?

Last edited by VagabondBXL; 04-25-2012 at 06:38 AM. Reason: deliberating the correct use of 'non-existing' ;)
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04-25-2012 , 12:40 PM
Well I sometimes play 7s and 15s, 7s are full of fishy players and 15s seem to have plenty of good regs. So id say 7s are pretty soft. Still ****loads of variance tho!
And thanks tomo
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04-26-2012 , 03:29 AM
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So id say 7s are pretty soft.
That's what I like to hear
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04-26-2012 , 06:58 AM
I'm sorry if this question has been asked(a lot) before, but I couldn't find an answer. I used to play some SNGs (Turbo, mostly 9s, and did alright) before black Friday and did OK. I recently relocated to the UK and wanted to start grinding again, but am limited to a $200 BR for now. What game is best? I've never played a hyper turbo and at most I can play $3.50 (probably going to start with $1.50s to get a bit used to things again). What structure (regular, turbo, hyper, fiftyfifty[these seem kinda awful]) is best?

Does the lower rake at hypers and higher attainable volume make up for the lower ROI? Is fiftyfifty better than it looks?

Thanks a lot.
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04-26-2012 , 09:10 AM
I think mass-tablers could prob get more reg/turbos open than hypers, and certainly have a higher ROI. Well maybe not certainly, but I hyper all day and turn my PC off when I get post-flop and I still reckon I could squeeze more ROI points out of something slower. Ignoring the possibility that you can 60 table turbos but only 12 table hypers, you're going to get far more hypers played per hour.

Hourly is what you are asking about, and I've not done the calcs but every post I've read regarding the matter puts hyper hourly way up there compared to slower formats.

As for Fifty-50s, I've never even opened the lobby.

Ignoring all that, if you played turbo 9s, then play turbo 9s. Mix in some other stuff, or play diff. games when you are bored/not really in the mood for your regular games but still want to get some poker in. I.E, I've heard "PLO hypers are redic. soft", but I can't play PLO, so without spending the next 6 months cramming strat then that quote just doesn't ring true for me.

Last edited by MetalSpork; 04-26-2012 at 09:18 AM. Reason: And getting dealt 4 cards tilts me to no end, although tbf it's usually cos I joined the wrong game
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04-26-2012 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MetalSpork
I think mass-tablers could prob get more reg/turbos open than hypers, and certainly have a higher ROI. Well maybe not certainly, but I hyper all day and turn my PC off when I get post-flop and I still reckon I could squeeze more ROI points out of something slower. Ignoring the possibility that you can 60 table turbos but only 12 table hypers, you're going to get far more hypers played per hour.

Hourly is what you are asking about, and I've not done the calcs but every post I've read regarding the matter puts hyper hourly way up there compared to slower formats.

As for Fifty-50s, I've never even opened the lobby.

Ignoring all that, if you played turbo 9s, then play turbo 9s. Mix in some other stuff, or play diff. games when you are bored/not really in the mood for your regular games but still want to get some poker in. I.E, I've heard "PLO hypers are redic. soft", but I can't play PLO, so without spending the next 6 months cramming strat then that quote just doesn't ring true for me.
Thanks a lot. It's been over a year since I've played and I just got here last week (reason for travel not poker related) so I think I'm going to give hypers a try. Would you recommend starting with 6s or 9s?
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04-26-2012 , 09:49 AM
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Thanks a lot. It's been over a year since I've played and I just got here last week (reason for travel not poker related) so I think I'm going to give hypers a try. Would you recommend starting with 6s or 9s?
I also recently returned to online poker and have the same question... Always used to play the 9s but
  1. a lot of hands posted here seem to be 6s hyper
  2. on PS at some levels ($3.50 for example) there are only 6s
Why would you prefer/ do many players prefer to play the 6s hypers?
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04-26-2012 , 10:20 AM
Yeah hyper 9mans are $1.50s (I think), $7s, $30s and $100s. 6max have a full range (FUUUU) of buyins, plus they fill/play much faster, and you can get a game any time of day. A few days ago I saw TWO $7/9s running. Obv I watched NYPD Blue instead.
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05-14-2012 , 06:47 AM
15 9max KO sng, first limper 51/2, btn limp 23/10

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $150(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,475)
Hero ($2,580)
UTG ($2,220)
UTG+1 ($1,305)
CO ($3,775)
BTN ($2,145)

Dealt to Hero A 8

UTG calls $150, fold, fold, BTN calls $150, SB calls $75, Hero ?

anyone else wants to shove this pre?
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05-14-2012 , 03:23 PM
$1.50 6-max Hypers on stars. What sort of ROI can I expect and how many do I need to play before I can discount variance and decide if I'm actually a winning player? I'm playing them simply to rack up the FPPs to earn the welcome bonus. I've done 261 of them and have a ROI of 11.36% but I'm on a big up swing at the moment, between game 160 - 200 I was hovering around break even but I've been up $40 after 70 games. I know they are swingy. After say 1000 games is varience still going to be a factor
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05-17-2012 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by thepiper777
In short yes you could have a 200 buy in downswing. FWIW 18 mans have higher levels of variance than 9 mans and coping with them is probably the hardest part of grinding sngs. The worst thing you can do when things turn bad n nothing holds, or you run kings into aces over n over, or you cant win a flip, etc etc is alter your strategy n play scared.

For example if someone is shoving on you every hand and you have a hand like AT or A9 n you know that you probably have the best hand and would normally snap call but the last 10 times you did that you got sucked out on or ran into a monster hand, the worst thing you can do is play scared, fold and hope for better. If you know you're running bad and have a solid strategy, keep playing that strategy and hope your luck changes.

Note that I said "if you KNOW you're running bad...", I am not advocating always playing the same way in the face of huge losses. If you have a coach who is analysing your game it sounds to me like its some ugly variance, but keep trying to look for ways to improve your game and ride out the harder times.

Look at the samples of the best 18 man grinders, notice their downswings and compare them to your own - you'll probably find they've had some pretty hard times too.
Hey guys, sorry about the long quote but i thought i should tell you how it ended.

The downswing came close to the 200 buyins but now i realize it was a mix of running bad, playing bad and drifting heavily.. after that down i got a new coach and he improved my game by a lot, helping me beat the down in just a month.

This are my last 3 months of the 18mans (3.5s and 7s).



Just wanted to let you know everything worked fine, thanks for the answers!.
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05-18-2012 , 09:10 PM
I feel like I played this hand really badly, villain is 43/30. Should I have just folded/3bet pre?



    Poker Stars, $1.40 Buy-in (15/30 blinds, 3 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12915882

    CO: 490 (16.3 bb)
    BTN: 518 (17.3 bb)
    SB: 550 (18.3 bb)
    Hero (BB): 528 (17.6 bb)
    UTG: 456 (15.2 bb)
    MP: 458 (15.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 A
    UTG folds, MP raises to 60, 3 folds, Hero calls 30

    Flop: (153) 4 4 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets 90, Hero raises to 180, MP calls 90

    Turn: (513) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets 200, MP raises to 215 and is all-in, Hero calls 15

    River: (943) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 943 pot
    Final Board: 4 4 9 3 K
    Hero showed 4 A and won 943 (485 net)
    MP showed T T and lost (-458 net)



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    05-20-2012 , 12:03 AM
    How do you know which rule applies? Say you have a draw. You shouldnt call for much more than 10% per the 5/10 rule, but what if you are getting more than enough odds? Should you push even if you expect to be called or fold in spite of the odds or just ignore the 5/10 rule and call?
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    05-21-2012 , 06:43 AM
    you'd need to know how long a session you're gonna play. If you're gonna play for 1 hour at a time obv you'll get less games in than if you played for 4 hours due to the length of time it takes to load up the games and finish a session.

    An easy way to do it is to just play a session - then count (or use a site like sharkscope which records the number of games you played) - this will give you an accurate figure rather than a prediction.

    In my experience trying to predict an hrly rate and then predict a weekly / monthly / yearly income based on volume of play leads to inaccuracy. The variance in poker means that for the vast majority of us we will experience ups and downs which will massively effect income year on year.

    Having said that predicting volume of games played in a day for rakeback calculations is a lot more reliable but do bear in mind that when you sit down to play it takes X amount of time to load 18 games, then when you come to finishing your session its not like all 18 finish at the same time so these the first and last hr of the session wont be the same as the other hours.
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    05-25-2012 , 12:52 PM
    Where is a decent place to play DoN's theese days? Really just looking for usable software and decent traffic at the micros
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    05-25-2012 , 07:27 PM
    Greatest resource to master STTs? Shoving ranges, ICM, etc.
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    05-26-2012 , 07:15 PM
    Noob question... what is the maximum # of tables u can play for turbo sng's?...i know its 24 for cash games, but i coulda sworn i see 30 or more for people playing SNG's?
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    05-27-2012 , 08:33 AM
    whats the best training website for 6max and 9man hyper turbos?
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    05-31-2012 , 01:55 PM
    So what site is the best to start playing micro SNGs ?
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