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Poker Stars $5.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 10 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP3: t1480 74 BBs
CO: t1710 85.50 BBs
BTN: t1460 73 BBs
SB: t1400 70 BBs
BB: t1530 76.50 BBs
Hero (UTG): t1500 75 BBs
UTG+1: t1420 71 BBs
UTG+2: t1500 75 BBs
MP1: t1500 75 BBs
MP2: t1500 75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is UTG with 4 4
3 folds, MP1 raises to t100, 2 folds, CO raises to t1710 all in, 2 folds, BB calls t1510 all in, MP1 calls t1400 all in

Flop: (t4570) Q J 5 (3 players - 3 are all in)

Turn: (t4570) Q (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: (t4570) 8 (3 players - 3 are all in)

Final Pot: t4570
CO shows J 3 (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
BB shows A 2 (a pair of Queens)
MP1 shows K K (two pair, Kings and Queens)
CO wins t60
MP1 wins t4510

i know i know, more ppl know how to play this format, ROIs are dropping, collusion is increasing, but hands like this give me hope.

So what are attainable ROIs in the 5s these days? Earlier I've read 8-10%, but nowadays with the games becoming harder?

I put some hands form my recently played 18s into Wiz and it seems that the suggest ranges are (a lot) thighter compared to 9max when ITM for example.

Is this just coincidence for those few hands or is this general true?

I havn't played 18s but I would assume calling ranges are going to be a bit tighter because of the flat payout structure.

Hello guys. For some reason I've found an interest in the Hyper turbos on Stars, you know the 6-handed satellites to larger tournaments with 6 players? They are tilting as f*** but I really want to learn how to beat them. I must.

Any suggestions to where I can learn the strategy needed in these tournaments? I'm not well versed with SNGs at all, but I have downloaded SNG wiz and started to experiment a bit with it. I also searched the forums but didn't find any information.

Thanks!

Also, what would be a suitable bankroll for these things, in terms of BI?

+1

Are the 3.40 18 mans worth playing?

Since the rake is higher then the 45's and 90's are they really worth grinding or are they a rip off? Im sure if you are playing only one game at a time then mabye they're ok but if you play 15 to 20 games at a time the rake has to eat into your profit.

I think people bitch about rake far too much. You are either happy with how much money you make per game or you aren't.

What's a sustainable % of ITM at the $104's @Stars?

Thanks!

Not been answered so I'll have a go.

payouts are 40,30,20,10% compared to 50,30,20%

3 handed I would imagine you can be looser calling and prob have to tighten up slightly against good players but might be able to shove even wider vs tighties because well they are tight. 40,30,20 is not as extreme as 50,30,20

4 handed though, only 40% of the prizepool has been allocated while in a 9man it's 60% for 3rd - I.E everyone in an 18man gets 10% when the bubble bursts. I would guess that you have to be tighter, but I'm just pulling this entire post of out my anus.

Any good strategys for beating 5 handed TURBO sngs ?? (3min blinds)

I recently switched over from grinding cash games to SnG because I got bored with grinding.

After 40 SnGs (granted, small sample), is a 11.9% ROI and 50% ITM decent? I'm playing the 9-man 1.50 + 0.25 games.

If so, would I be crazy to try the 3.00 + 0.40 games? I have about 50 buyins for those.

SnGs aren't going to be any better. All games become boring after you play them enough.

Your results from just 40 games are meaningless. 12% roi is good. 50% ITM isn't sustainable.

from the faq:
3) Bankroll Requirements
If you are playing SNGs for a living, you should have as an absolute minimum, 100 buyins in your account. 200 would be preferable. For all serious players, 100 buyins is the standard, although there is nothing wrong with taking shots at a higher level with less. You can make adjustments for this depending on how willing you are to move down in stakes after a downswing. If you don't mind jumping around stakes, as few as 30-50 buyins might be enough. However, it is preferable to only move up once you have 100 buyins at a given level so if you DO happen to go on a bad run, you won't have to move down to recover. The reason is simple... assuming you're beating a given level, you will recover quicker playing the same stakes as opposed to attempting to recover at smaller stakes.

Also you should read the rest of the FAQ.

Hey guys,

I want to start 8 tabling (and eventually at least 12 tabling) as I can handle 6 fine atm imo. However to do so I need to stop tiling and start stacking as stacking 8 tables on my monitor (1680x1050) isn't going to work very well.

I was wondering what my options are software-wise, besides TableNinja, to help me make this transition? Ideally I would software that auto-registers me for an [x] amount of SNGs, pops tables that require action to the foreground, the ability to move tables from my stack to somewhere else on the screen (eg. tables where I'm on the bubble) and auto timebank clicker. I've been looking through the software forum but getting a bit overwhelmed by the amount of AHK scripts with little explanation what they do exactly, so I figured someone on here might have a similar setup and could help me out. Or is everyone already using TableNinja and should I just buy that as it will 'earn itself back' quickly (just don't really like dropping almost 10 buyins on software while I am still trying to build up my roll at the 6.50s)?

If anyone could help me out that be great...

Playing on Stars btw if that matters.

TableNinja is your best bet it can do all of those things + more. AHKs are still a good option if you're on the cheap, but there are downsides. Sometimes a stars update breaks a script, a developer stops working on it, there's a few features you won't get etc. With ninja you have easier access to support, very fast updates, etc

If you need help with AHKs shoot me a PM. The software forum is full of good AHKs and helpful people so spend some time in there!

Random question, but does anyone know who LUNDAWG on stars is? The guy just out of nowhere has been killing the high stake sngs (mostly 6 max) within the last month.

I'm a cash game player on Stars and I play the 280FPP hyper turbo 6-man tournaments to convert my FPPs to cash since I'm only a silverstar player right now. Can anybody recommend me any good posts to read to learn how to play these a little better? Are there any videos on cardrunners about these games?

I know the basics like, it takes a stronger hand to call a shove than it does to shove, push lighter in late position than in ep, etc. I'm just trying to make my game a little better so I can have a higher ROI in these things.

Also, can I track these games in HEM? How big of a sample size would I need to determine if I'm a winning player?

It's not that diffucult to run at a 20% roi over 300 games.

When reviewing your sessions with the SNG WIZ, do you use ICM or Chip for Equity model?

What's the difference?

I don't use wiz but I'd suppose ICM is $EV and "Chip" just is cEV, so it should be pretty obvious which one to use at a given spot.

E.g. if you're playing 18mans you don't have to care about $EV that much early on, but the closer you come to the bubble the more important it gets. In HU, $EV and cEV are basically the same again.

FWIW one well placed thread should be enough; also, note there's a beginners questions thread in STTF^^.

ICM model is for STT and final table of MTT, Chip model is for MTT before final table.

Is it so?

So when reviewing for example 18-man sngs you have to be constantly switching between ICM and Chip ? :O

It's worse than that.

ICM works all the way through any tournament. It's just that its effects are less when further from the money. So conventionally we use cEV for the 18-9, and then $EV for the final table. Given the limitations of ICM, this is reasonable.