Here's an even more marginal situation. I'm about 15% to bust with AA aipf against one opponent. I think I can probably fold into the money here with two players facing blind-outs before me, but it would be awesome to be able to put a hard number on it, otherwise this is all just guesswork...


Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300.00/t600.00 Blinds - 6 players
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BTN: t1625.00 M = 1.81
Hero (SB): t1910.00 M = 2.12
BB: t1870.00 M = 2.08
UTG: t1755.00 M = 1.95
MP: t2690.00 M = 2.99
CO: t5150.00 M = 5.72

Pre Flop: (t900) Hero is SB with A A
2 folds, CO raises to t5090, 1 fold

depends on your roi.

i'll assume you'll have some leaks here and there and your true ROI is something along the lines of 4%.

The chance that you drop 35 buyins over 130 is about 5%.

Looking for a SNG to play regularly along with my mtts , $22 9man non turbos i reckon would suit my game best.

Are these just reg infested?

What kinda ROI would be semi decent?

And just wondering how SNG players keep track of results, I've HEM and PT3 but the really look like cash tools.

Anyone purchase Sharkscope,worth it?

Im ok not that great at pokerz,ive a 2.2 BR online at the mo..could put in more if needed be.

Anyone suggest any other SNGS which i could play? volume wont be massive 10-15 a day maybe..cutting back on tabs,for a while there i thought i was Boku and failed big times

How do you know you can fold into the money? Can you predict that the shorties are going to lose when they get their chips in?

You have to play to win, and not just to cash. Yes there are fold situations with AA in ICM but this is an easy call.

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Obviously did not realize this was DoN, as it wasn't mentioned in the post.

Mathematically you should be able to calculate the odds of this happening, but I'm struggling with the formula. At the moment I'm just eyeballing it, but it would be nice to at least have a formula that I could check my results against to make sure I am making the correct plays, even if it is too complicated to calculate at the tables.

Sorry, I made a quick series of 3 posts and only mentioned it in the first post.

Ive been lurking on 2+2 for a month or two now and have finally decided to join in on the excellant discussions which take place here, lately ive been playing 9man $1 sit and go's on full tilt but feel the rake is far too high at 20%, ive been considering moving up to the $2 games because of this, but with a roll of about $34 im slightly worried my br cant sustain a bad run at this level. I usually 6 table the $1 games as i think it helps keep me from feeling bored when playing plus the added volume also helps. After trying out other formats (rush, mtt, etc.) i feel 9 man sngs are my better game and plan on sticking to them. Since sticking with them ive had a run of 100 games (terrible sample size, i know) with a roi of 11% including the juice, I guess what im asking is should i move to the $2 games under rolled or not as i feel the rake is really hurting my winnings at the $1 level? sorry for the long post.

$34 isn't enough even for the $1 games.

100 buyins is a decently sized br for 9man turbos (and a winning player ofc).

It always depends on what you want out of poker tho. fun, profit, getting better, etc.

• You are just playing for fun, but you won't invest more than the $34 you have right now, then playing 1c/2c cash is probably your best option. Moving up to the $2 stakes and gambling it up and see how it goes, then moving on to another hobby if you fail is probably fine as well.
• You are playing for fun and money doesn't matter much, deposit a little more and play the $2 stakes.
• You are playing for profit/moving up/getting better and you won't invest more than the $34, again 1c/2c cash seems to be the safest way.
• You are playing for profit/moving up/getting better and you would be willing to deposit a little more, then fill up to something like $150 and play the $2 stakes.

Thank you jurrasstoil ill certainly take all that onboard, ive been playing mainly for moving up the stakes and getting better, but dont really want to deposit more and move up that way, id rather earn my way there.

I was using a 20 buy in rule for the $1 games, i wasnt too worried about busting my bankroll at first but since getting sucked into poker im now aware that 20 is way too little.

I never did consider moving to the cash games, ill take a good look at that idea now tho. i had played some cash games on the ipoker network with moderate success (12.65BB/100) over a miniscule sample size (~1300 hands) but that was before i discovered multitabling and so you can imagine how many hours went into that 1300 hands! ive rakeback on full tilt too which i never had on ipoker so its certainly a bonus aswell

Thanks for the help and ill have to seriously consider your advice.

If you are able to play on all sites then bonuswhoring is still a really good and safe way to build a bankroll.

Im from Ireland so i can play on all sites, ive looked into bonus whoring alright and it does seem like a good option.

i'm still clearing a bonus on full tilt at the moment (cardrunners + HEM one) and am about 70 points away from the first $20 of the refer a friend bonus so ill probably stay at full tilt for the time being, at least till i get my copy of HEM!

any comments appreciated

First hand is a super easy call.

Second hand I'll probably jam, especially first hand in a freeroll since you'd expect a lot of people to be absent. You can also expect some people to fold AJ, low PP type hands since you jammed from UTG.

Does anybody use stacked for normal 9 mans? If so how's your experience with it versus tiled?

Hey guys
what are the main differences between playing 6 max DONs or 6 max SnG's gameplay wise.

I have minimal experience at 6 max and would be considered a noob i think, and zero DOn experience.

Im trying to decide which is the better starting point.

one factor in favour of 6max sngs is that i have a few thousand matches of HU under my belt which would be redundant in DONs but quite useful for 6 max SnGs

Strategy question.

Let's say we're getting towards the mid blind levels, and this situation arises:

Blinds t60/t120
UTG
UTG+2
MP1
MP2
Hero (t2000 effective)
Button
SB
BB

Preflop: Hero is CO with JJ
4 folds, Hero raises to t360, 2 folds, SB calls t300, 1 fold.

Flop: (t840) K, 6, 4 (2 players, t1640 effective)
SB checks, Hero...?

Commentary: On the surface, this looks WA/WB. We're WB {QQ+, 66, 44, Kx} and we're WA {A2-AQ, 22, 33, 55, 77-TT, air}. Those hands we are WA of have very few outs to improve over us, and we have few outs to improve against hands we are WB.

I very much wish to check here, letting a card fall off and hopefully pairing villain's Ax rag. Here's my problem:

Assume the turn is not an ace. If I check flop, villain will often lead turn with a very wide range. Should I shove over or fold? If I fold, what was the point of checking the flop, since he will bet a wide range?

If I bet t520 flop, I must fold to any raise. If I bet flop and get called, do I shut down on turn? I find this very troubling after investing half my stack.

Is this line sexy?

Preflop: Hero is CO with JJ
4 folds, Hero raises to t360, 2 folds, SB calls t300, 1 fold.

Flop: (t840) K, 6, 4 (2 players, t1640 effective)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t840) 7 (2 players, t1640 effective)
SB bets t520, Hero raises to 1640 all-in, SB...

Commentary: Raising all-in, hoping he will fold QQ, weak kings? Or would only a very atypical villain fold a king here? The value from this line would come from a folded king and horrible TT, 99, 88 calls.

Does anyone else have trouble playing the $1 SNG tournaments? There are so many players of different skill levels, I can never get a read on anyone. I make standard raises with a hand like AQ in middle position and some guys will push all in with a random hand within the first few minutes of the game. Is there anyway to get better at the lower levels besides obviously practicing?

For example, I was the big blind and one person limped in from MP and the small blind called. I raised with AQs to 3 times the BB. MP called and SB folded. The flop came up J, 10, 2.

Should I make a continuation bet here? Well, I did and bet around half the pot. MP called. An ace came on the turn so I obviously made a bet. He raised the minimum and I didn't think he had AK or AJ because he probably would have raised pre flop so I called. An 8 came up on the river, so I assumed I was still ahead so I made another he bet and he called and flipped over a 79 and won with a straight.

Did I play this wrong or did the other guy just make terrible calls and get lucky? Stuff like this happens all the time.

What do you find to be the best time to play? If you are an American player, do you find softer tables in the AM, when the avg European is logging on after work, or during the US evening?

much traffic = good time to play

I never tested out...
What about jumping directly into the evil, shark-infested $5 level?

Seriously, if you are not beating $1s over 500+ (300+ ?) games then work on your strategy.

(edit: ) The example you gave seems well played.
Post exact hand-histories next time, you will get WAY better response

Double-or-Nothing, so 5 spots get paid. Is this one of those quirky satellite-type spots where it's correct to fold AA preflop?

Poker Stars $1.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t40 - 6 players
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SB: t5807 M = 6.91
BB: t2405 M = 2.86
UTG: t350 M = 0.42
Hero (MP): t1700 M = 2.02
CO: t355 M = 0.42
BTN: t4383 M = 5.22

Pre Flop: (t840) Hero is MP with A A
1 fold, Hero?

Not a hand result, but a related question:

I fail at the search function.

Looking for an answer to a stat question for STT's.

Most importantly to me, at low blind levels, what does your 3-bet percentage look like with AK? I think I have been pushing my AK suited and un-suited a little too hard PF when BB is < 100 . Trying to figure out if I can cold call more often, simply muck against the rocks, or if/when I should be 3-betting or willing to call a 3-bet at low blind play.

Just trying to find a way to reduce variance in these things by tightening down even more in the early blind levels.

So, does anyone have stats over 50,000+ hands and mind saying what percentage of the time you are 3 betting AK PF when given the opportunity? (IE, if there is a raise in front of you, do you 3 bet or CC). If you are the initial raiser (I'm assuming unless you're up against a total known fish, you are not usually shoving) do you usually cold call 3 bets made against you, in position, out of position, etc.

I could be off my rocker here, but looking for some "general help".

I'm playing the $2.25's and with the number of loose donks at this level, I'd been playing it pretty aggressively, but I think all it has done is increase my variance.

Most good players are unbelievable nitty 3bettors early game.
I don't know any non-spewy reg who is 3betting early game more than 5% profitable.

I am personally pretty cautious 3betting AK, bc the cold-call is often superiour. Basically your just creating a big pot by doing so, esp if you are in position. And if the pot is big, it's no big mistake for your opponent to stack off lightly. So you both are leaking equity to the other nittier players in the sng.

High blind situations are a different animal, bc the cold-call is the worst thing you can do.

I've actually been playing a lot of $1.20 because I wanted to start a challenge with only $50 (here's the link http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-style-820139/). The rake sucks, but the games are 100% beatable. I've played about 500 of both $1.20 and $2.25 and the difference isn't that noticeable. Like above stated though, if you aren't beating $1 over 500 games you should probably work on strategy first to save monies.