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Old 03-30-2010, 11:53 AM   #1
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:31 PM   #2
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HUD for Superturbos or hyper-turbos

I started off not using a HUD for these games cause i thought one wouldn't get enough of a sample size for it to be effective. however, the more i play against reverse grinders (reg losing players), the more i want to start using one.
does anyone who play these superturbo or hyper turbos use a HUD. If so, how do you configure it? Do you find the clutter to be worth the info???
tyty and glgl
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:48 PM   #3
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ICM Situation



Two very similar situations in my eyes. Tried tweaking with the stack sizes and ranges a bit but nothing makes very big of a difference. Is it the number of players or is it just a little bit from everything? I'm very confused x__X
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:53 PM   #4
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

stack sizes

look at your equity when you are called and lose

also in #1 the big stack has folded

6 players vs 5 players does make a diff, but stack arrangement here is big
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Old 03-30-2010, 03:04 PM   #5
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

I guess it's the folding of the big stack + 1 less player because in the second situation I tried changing all of the stack sized to 1000 while making mine 3000 and the push range doesn't move up even %10.
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Old 03-30-2010, 03:24 PM   #6
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

and eff. stacksizes. you are pushing only 6bb in #1 and 10bb in number 2.
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Old 03-30-2010, 03:36 PM   #7
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Re: HUD for Superturbos or hyper-turbos

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I started off not using a HUD for these games cause i thought one wouldn't get enough of a sample size for it to be effective. however, the more i play against reverse grinders (reg losing players), the more i want to start using one.
does anyone who play these superturbo or hyper turbos use a HUD. If so, how do you configure it? Do you find the clutter to be worth the info???
tyty and glgl
use one then, read the instructions in HEM..it's ez
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Old 03-30-2010, 05:53 PM   #8
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steps on pokerstars to wsop ME

would it be crazy to think i have a small shot at winning a seat at the main event with a $200-300 investment and starting at step 1 on pokerstars? I mean I've seen that cake has a step system for a 2k wsop prelim event but I feel like the structure is horrible compared to the ME (which is the sickest structure and is a tourny I want to play so bad in the future even tho im a college student). I mean losing $200 or $300 isnt a big deal for me but I really want to win a seat to the main event.
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:36 PM   #9
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Re: steps on pokerstars to wsop ME

it would not be crazy, you really would have a small shot at winning a seat.
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:41 PM   #10
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how do you guys play so many tables profitably?

While I'm mostly a tourney player, ive been grinding sngs a lot lately.
I'd probably give my push/fold game an A- (good but not perfect)
Got table ninja and a nice roll for the stakes im playing (18man turbos)

I feel most comfortable when im 10 tabling. Usually keep 4 tables on the left monitor and 6 on the right. I want to get in more volume but idk how best to do this.

How many tables do you play and what kind of setup do you use (stack, cascade etc)
Any tips?

Much abliged
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:46 PM   #11
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Re: how do you guys play so many tables profitably?

http://www.tableofinterest.com/index.html

that is all
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:49 PM   #12
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Re: how do you guys play so many tables profitably?

Stacking makes playing more tables much easier, you could easily replace time spent moving back and forth between 2 monitors with another table or 2. Next time read the FAQ / use the search feature there's been infinite discussions of this subject
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:53 PM   #13
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Re: steps on pokerstars to wsop ME

You have a 3% shot.

Playing the main event isn't as fun as you might think by the way.
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Old 03-30-2010, 07:17 PM   #14
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Re: steps on pokerstars to wsop ME

why not? Its the biggest tourny imo. I can imagine playing the whole day is a grind tho but thats what i live for.
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Old 03-30-2010, 07:55 PM   #15
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Re: steps on pokerstars to wsop ME

JK,

you know that you don't HAVE to play the ME if you qualify through PS? If losing 200-300 bucks doesn't mean a lot to you, lets see how you feel after losing 10k.

And +1 to Dan.
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Old 03-31-2010, 08:28 AM   #16
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Question Holdem manager vs. pokertracker vs. sharkscope hud?

Hi guys

I have been playing poker for some years now, and i feel i am rdy to take it to the next lvl, as i have gained experience to play 9 tables og stt sng with 9 players, at the stakes up to 25$ with an average roi above 10%, and now i wanna get more in depth with my stats, to find my leaks and improve my game, to get higher than 25$.

So here comes my question, what program is best for this when i play sngs, i oocasionally aslo play some cash games, shorthanded and hu, but im mostly a sng man. So what program would u recomend for me?

A must is that it can display the apropriate stats(raise/fold percents, their overall profit, and stuff like that) right on the table, so i dont have to look elsewhere.

I hope you can give me some good advide.

Thx

P.S i dont need comments like "pokertracker rocks!", more detailed reviews please
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:53 AM   #17
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Holdem and pokertracker both have trials so your best finding out for yourself.

Both have customisable HUDs and you can display whichever stats you want.
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:55 AM   #18
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Sharkscope HUD is prohibited on most (all?) sites, so it's not worth investing money into something could get you banned.

HEM and PT3 both have trial versions and i'd say you are best of checking them out for at least a week each and then decide which one you like best.
Personally I prefer HEM, partly because I had a bad experience with PT3 (lagged a lot, unstable, etc.), but that was PT3 v3 iirc and they are now at v5, so it might be better now.
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Old 03-31-2010, 12:10 PM   #19
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Re: steps on pokerstars to wsop ME

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JK,

you know that you don't HAVE to play the ME if you qualify through PS? If losing 200-300 bucks doesn't mean a lot to you, lets see how you feel after losing 10k.

And +1 to Dan.
Yes but the main event's structure is sick nasty. And I feel like its worth a 10k shot at hitting a million dollar score. I mean look at joe cada and jerry yang. Didnt play amazing final tables but got lucky and won. Anyone can win the main event imo but being a halfway decent player improves your chances. Yes I agree tho that 10k is a lot and I would rather play $200-$500 events where I wouldnt be screwed if I didn't cash in 1 tourny.
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Old 03-31-2010, 12:17 PM   #20
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

I don't know your usual stakes, so not sure what to think about your statements.
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Old 03-31-2010, 12:36 PM   #21
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what to do with the Pokerstars FPPs?

Sorry if this have been discussed before, i did some search and no luck

Did you find some more profitable ways to spend the FPPs than the bonuses??
I have played some satellites and unregister from the tourney (ex Sunday 1/4 million 70FPPs, giving 11 tourney $)

i'm grinding the 6.5s (will take some shots at the 16$) so i dont get too many PFFs per week, hopefully i'll end up as a Goldstar next month

what do you recommend? how do you profit your FPPs??

ty guys

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Old 03-31-2010, 12:46 PM   #22
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

You can't use concierge so probably the 5400 fpp sats, just avoid the regs.
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Old 03-31-2010, 01:03 PM   #23
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

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You can't use concierge so probably the 5400 fpp sats, just avoid the regs.
is this the Sunday Million sat? 10 players 4 seats and then unregister from the event?

what aprox cashes do you have in these ones?
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Old 03-31-2010, 02:05 PM   #24
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Re: HUD for Superturbos or hyper-turbos

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use one then, read the instructions in HEM..it's ez

I was not really asking how to use a HUD. I am quite familiar with the HEM software have ample experience with it in regular speed SNGs. My previous post was questioning HEM's HUD effectiveness in Superturbo/hyperturbo games (if any). As im sure you already know, superturbo/hyperturbos are quite different and thus you would have to configure HEM correspondingly. Therefore I was hoping to hear others opinions about the subject of its usage in this particular situation because I thought that was what the 2p2 forums were for... ty and gl
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:52 PM   #25
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Re: ****Official Beginner/Basic Question Thread****

Why does HUD need to be configured very differently from a regular SNG? Use the HUD recommendations from the HUD discussion thread in the Tools thread for what's already been posted:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...e-sngs-422576/

Get more specific, I'm not understanding what you're after, but I don't play super turbos
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