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KQo 15bb facing a LAG open raise KQo 15bb facing a LAG open raise

01-04-2018 , 04:55 PM
UTG is loose&aggressive but had been folding alot to hero's 3bets both pre and post during the earlier stages.
How should hero play this hand at this stack size? Just push and smile?

Party, $1 Buy-in (80/160 blinds, 20 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37919200

UTG: 3,038 (19 bb)
SB: 3,112 (19.5 bb)
BB: 811 (5.1 bb)
Hero (BTN): 2,412 (15.1 bb)
CO: 2,512 (15.7 bb)
MP: 1,615 (10.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q K
UTG raises to 480, 2 folds, Hero raises to 2,392 and is all-in
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01-04-2018 , 08:16 PM
Nash says you can shove KQo if you expect to see the big stacked SB call correctly (99+, AQs+, AKo+) and the UTG player call your resteal correctly (AJo+, ATs+, 99+).

I didn't look at overcall ranges but even by playing around with the ranges just a bit you can quickly see you should fold your hand.


Let's say the SB would also call AQo, AJs and 88 (possibly even 77), particularly if he has seen you two going at it and thinks his hand is actually pretty good.

And let's say UTG is calling with ATo, 88, A9s, A8s, 88 and 77 as well. (He might be calling with much worse since he's often seen you taking away pots without showdown. He might call out of frustration/curiosity.)


In that case your hand is a snap fold (KQo -0.48%). And I've seen players call with much worse at these stakes, so KQo is an auto fold for me. I would consider shoving AJo+ and 77+ and folding the rest.

Oh, and he's sized it to say leave the big blind to me, which means he definitely has a stronger hand than on average and at these stakes, he wouldn't be likely to think he knows I have to be strong, since I isolated the BB and he still shoved which must mean he really has a premium!, he's much more likely to just call your bet.

Last edited by mrrnnn; 01-04-2018 at 08:29 PM.
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01-04-2018 , 09:15 PM
Forgot to add an important piece of information. The above applies if UTG's open range in this case is 19%. I don't know really, but I'd say it's quite realistic given the size and position.
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01-04-2018 , 09:39 PM
I would fold pre, or flat and check/fold any flop without top pair. I think that 3x utg might be too much to call with your stack size. Also, I think there will be better spots to shove pre.
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01-06-2018 , 11:08 AM
I probably call with the intention of gii otf if I connect [2nd pair plus]. I don't think shoving is terrible as you'v info that villain is opening very wide. Of the 3 options folding seems to be the worst.
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01-18-2018 , 03:46 PM
Fold.
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01-19-2018 , 05:32 AM
I'd want to know if this is his usual sizing.

Based on your player read I think you can jam this fine.

Re: title "LAG" doesn't mean that much. Some of the actually important things are
a. "Opens a lot / not much"
b. "3-bets a lot / not much"
c. "Calls opens a lot / not much"
d. "Calls 3-bets a lot / not much"

Sometimes people can be aggressive in terms of a but not b. Also people might be loose in terms of a. but tight in terms of c and d.

Your combination of reads for a. and d. is why this is a compulsory jam.
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