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01-17-2018 , 11:53 AM

rickopatamus

stranger

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 7

6 Max HYPER TURBO $30+
BLINDS: 40/80 (going to 50/100 in :42)

HERO: 750
SB:1020
BB:1230

Button (Hero):QQ

ICMizer says SB will call with top 26% of hands and BB will call top 20%
Shoving seems the only option in these Hypers because they're so nuts

Do you agree?

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01-17-2018 , 03:15 PM

mrrnnn

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 117

So you're actually thinking about open folding QQ or is the title clickbaity?

QQ is a premium hand in general and even more so in this spot. I don't know how shoving compares to minraising but you could probably make an argument for both. No idea how people play at the highest stakes but minraising would for sure have its merits on the lower stakes.

Since this is a $30 SNG there is a lot of chance villains are competent. If you think they are regs or better than yourself then I would always shove. Trying to balance my range and play against aggressive, competent players would lose more money than it would make me for sure.

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01-17-2018 , 08:28 PM

rickopatamus

stranger

Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 7

No I bet 2.5 BB to induce a shove by one of the blinds. BB shoved, I called. He Showed A9s and spiked an Ace on the flop. When I reviewed my hand histories in ICMizer, I was shocked to see that this (according to ICMizer) was a fold. I don't think I can lay that down

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01-17-2018 , 09:27 PM

mrrnnn

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 117

When I put it in icmizer it says QQ is a snap call pretty much no matter what. Maybe you made a mistake?

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01-18-2018 , 03:32 PM

monkeyheaven

adept

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 733

Interested to hear any hyper player ideas here that aren’t open shove. Seems really hard to construct any reasonable raise fold range. . That’s the only question here, openfolding is clearly a mistake.

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02-19-2018 , 03:41 PM

Top Pig

adept

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 772

you've definitley icmizer'd it wrong. This is standard nash

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02-19-2018 , 09:37 PM

Solidthought

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,756

icmzier would not say fold this.

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02-20-2018 , 11:39 AM

bachconnelly86

centurion

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 100

I'm afraid you've ICMized incorrectly. Here's what it shows for me, with Nash ranges.

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