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Q8s call river? Q8s call river?

10-24-2018 , 11:41 AM
partypoker - 1100/2200 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 60.29 BB (VPIP: 20.29, PFR: 14.93, 3Bet Preflop: 13.79, Hands: 69)
MP+1: 36.48 BB (VPIP: 19.93, PFR: 16.07, 3Bet Preflop: 9.02, Hands: 289)
CO: 57.38 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 12.12, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 34)
BTN: 48.33 BB (VPIP: 18.52, PFR: 11.80, 3Bet Preflop: 6.35, Hands: 164)
SB: 46.77 BB (VPIP: 26.49, PFR: 19.12, 3Bet Preflop: 8.95, Hands: 685)
Hero (BB): 63.32 BB
UTG: 43.93 BB (VPIP: 24.24, PFR: 15.15, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
UTG+1: 67.1 BB (VPIP: 25.14, PFR: 18.09, 3Bet Preflop: 10.92, Hands: 727)

8 players post ante of 0.14 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.59 BB) Hero has 8 Q

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 2.2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.2 BB

Flop: (5.99 BB, 2 players) J T Q
Hero checks, MP+1 checks

Turn: (5.99 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 3.5 BB, MP+1 calls 3.5 BB

River: (12.99 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 5.64 BB, Hero ???

V: cbet flop 6/14 fold to probe turn 0/3
Q8s call river? Quote
10-24-2018 , 01:06 PM
OOC - what's the idea of leading OTT?
Q8s call river? Quote
10-24-2018 , 02:46 PM
Fold.

MP Capped his hand with a single pair on the flop. He check flops and calls the turn.

When he leads out on river it's for value. Never a bluff there.
Q8s call river? Quote
10-24-2018 , 09:33 PM
We only need to win 25% of the time otr, can't see how we can fold now when he can turn some Ax, 99 and some other stuff into bluffs when he misses his straight draw.

His value range is somewhat blocked when we hold a Q and there are 2 jacks on the board. He proly cb Jx,Qx otf as there is the straight draw there, proly less likely to slow play his value range seeing there is straight draws there.. like sets, 2p maybe only AK, even then he may want 3 streets when we can chase. Id call here not too thrilled about it.

Last edited by wowsooooted; 10-24-2018 at 09:41 PM.
Q8s call river? Quote
10-24-2018 , 09:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cizixap
OOC - what's the idea of leading OTT?
Its a good vb imo, we have tp, fd and gs. Good to take the initiative now and try to take it down or build a bigger pot for river play should we hit our draw.
Q8s call river? Quote
10-25-2018 , 12:15 AM
Call and it's a good hand.
Q8s call river? Quote
10-25-2018 , 12:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cizixap
OOC - what's the idea of leading OTT?
Value. Protection. Initiative. Stuff like that
Q8s call river? Quote
10-25-2018 , 08:54 AM
When he checks back the flop then bets the river like that he's either got something really strong or trash.

I think this looks like 2 pair or a set so I would fold to the river bet.
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