For sure i know about the tactic to use the power of a big stack and the fear of the mid stacks. I also saw many many times that big stacks fold to small stacks on the bubble. I'm aware of that tactic and i fully understand that it. What i saw first time is that someone is that ruthless to fold to sitting out nano stack.


I dont ask the same questions over and over again. But in fact i get the same answer to different aspects over and over gain or i get no anwser. You and the site think its legal, even when the site rule say clearly say that it is not legal. Ok, i understand it and accept it. But this is a forum, so where is the problem to go beyond this and debate about ethical things behind it?

So folding as big stack (with AA) to nano stack that just calls you is ok?

Definitely in bad taste.

What does it say exactly?

The first post in this thread clearly states the rule referenced here.

If this is the rule, and no one has claimed it is not, then the behavior displayed by the big stack was clearly against the rules of the site. You guys talking about EV moves are totally missing the point of the OP.

Maybe it is a bad rule, but that was a clear violation of the rule.

The site doesn't react to my mails, where i refer clearly to this rule. Since ignoring me makes me angry:

We talk about Titan Poker and IPoker that doesn't respect their own rules. And here is the rule ("Dumping/Passing chips" in the mid).

Oh sorry my bad.

It is a horribly written rule for sure.

"Deliberately losing chips to other players for whatever reason..."

Like everytime you fold, you lose chips to someone deliberately for a reason.
Openfold 72o UTG deep with the purpose not to lose more chips. Still fits the rule perfectly.

You can argue that betting with 72o against odds is an action that makes you lose more chips than folding, different to the situation where you can get chips for free without any risk.

What you are talking about is Chips Expected Value, which is different from just Chips. If you want to argue that the rule means Cev not just Chips, you may aswell acknowledge that the equivalent to Cev in SNGs is $ev. Once you do that, the move becomes legal.

In fact, given the way the rule is written, it would be illegal to do anything but fold. Like I said, really stupidly written rule. Deliberately for whatever reason... whoever wrote that didnt think it through properly or didnt expect people to take the rule for its actual words.

its a negative freeroll for the bigstack to do this. ask the site to check for a connection between accounts and move on.

its not a winning strategy so this pair is unlikely to do it again unless disconnected.

ruling is fair imo, no way u would take a guys money for this, if he has a clean past.

I know the bigstack - played over 20k hands with him. I'm pretty sure there is no connection between them because he always uses his power when he has a big stack (but the first time this way). As is said, the site doesn't react anymore. Normally i would leave the site but its a IPoker thing. I would had to leave IPoker with all my accounts (different sites) if i want to behave straight. But i would call IPoker my home.

It puzzles me how difficult it is to players to find optimal play in this case.
Just cause I love you guys - limp/fold.