I am thinking of dropping online cash games and focusing solely on single table SNGs.

I 'd like to set aside around $1250 for this and was wondering about the limit I should be playing. I feel confident playing $25's and it seems to be the best limit to keep me interested and also to make it worthwhile.

$1250 would give me 50 buy-ins, and I could always drop down to $10s if I got down to $500-$700.

I've played $5s, $10s and $25s in the past and done well, but never focused on this exclusively. I had a pretty good ROI, but with a recent hard drive failure and no back up for my poker records, I can't say how many games I've played or my results.

Can you offer any recommendations based on the limited amount of info I can give you?

Where are you playing?

I'm in Vegas, so WSOP.com is my only option.

Just now I looked at SNGs available and while there are $5s and $10s running, and waiting lists for a new one, there is nothing for the $25s.

This could simply mean it starts later in the day. Which leads me to another question. Would this be ideal: 75 buy-ins for $25 SNGs ($1875) and $625 to add other games to the mix, so I have constant volume. I'm thinking about MTTs and $10 SNGs, specifically. NO CASH GAMES. So a total of $2500 for this 'experiment.'

I would like to put in 7-9 hours, 5- 6 days a week. I need to be realistic about the amount of time I can devote to this.

I guess what I'm asking is what can I expect to achieve? Maybe unanswerable without knowing my history, but perhaps worst to best scenario? Is playing in other games along with $25 SNGs detrimental or beneficial?

Thanks!

I built my initial role primarily of sng's. Played thouuuuuusands of them a month. Recently I just moved back from vegas and fired up WSOP NV and had to switch to cash, zoom, or tournaments because there was almost zero worthwhile action for sng's on that site. There are some better sights that offer routine $25, $50, and about 10-$100 and a few $200 sng's. I could be 4 tabling $50 sng's no problem and if action slowed down a bit I would bump down to $25's or fire $100 HU instead.

SNG's on wsop unfortunately isn't propably going to work. Putting 7-9 hours in a day just for sng's isn't realistic. You'll get maybe 4 tables an hour at the lowest stakes. With SNG's you're looking for volume. Playing 160+ sng's in a session is typically what I would knock out in a day with about 5-8 tournaments thrown in and maybe 5 HU matches thrown in. You're not gonna get that kind of volume in on wsop.

As far as buyins go, I would make sure I had 20 buyins for each additional table I would add on. Your ROI is going to go down slightly for each table you add on, so your STD DEV is going to go up. I think the worst acute downswing I went on was about 18 buyins without cashing anything. Also I would work out your STD DEV by estimating your ROI and from there you can calculate your estimated EV per x-hour day and you can then gauge what stakes/buyin ratio that works for you according to how high or low your STD DEV is. Also being able to mathematically estimate your EV will mentally help you should you hit a rough patch.

I would use WSOP for tournaments, and cash, it also helps to be able to pick funds up from CET properties and reload should you need to. I treated my WSOP kinda like a bank account. I would grind WSOP simply to cash out a few times a week for live events or having additional wallet funds for going out or buying new clothes or electronics.
My other online account I wouldn't cash out and just grind SNGS all day because multi table strat wasn't rocket science and with about a week of studying/playing with some help from some software to train, you can crush them on autopilot fairly quickly. I would play both accounts at the same time, one to cash out weekly $$$ and one for the business end of my poker career to build and move up stakes... SNG's= bread and butter.

It's doable if you do that. Buy a high powered gaming laptop on the budget end. A budget gaming laptop is a super powered poker laptop with a graphics card that can handle all the programs you would ever need. Buy 2 cheap monitors off craigslist or ebay (treat yourself by upgrading in the future) and configure everything then snag some external hard drives for data that you can back up once a week, whether or not if you have a SSD or hard drive.
Fire up some separate accounts and grind it out.

man i just got back into online poker and i dont know what the situation is with WSOP Vegas , but i can confirm that its damn near impossible to play SNGs consistently for a good profit!

I made an account with Global Poker, Ignition, Chico Network and ACR. Not only can you not consistently play SNG games because of lack of selection, but you play the same damn people over and over usually lol

There is just not volume! i dont know how people do it (if they do) - but im guessing most real money makers are in Canada/Europe etc

back in my day you joined a sng on PS and it would fill up in 3 seconds. they have 180 man sngs too, etc etc. It was incredable

now im waiting a half hour for 9 man sng to start lol.

Dog I'm telling you we need to get this online poker ecosystem in the USA fixed stat. It makes me sick sitting here and not having access to all that available action. The fish/reg ratio has gotta be better out of the country.
I'm planning on moving to Budapest after the 2019 WSOP is over. I was gonna go to Mexico so I could be closer to the US, but with all these killings of tourist because of the cartels, naaaaah. Canada would be my first option but other than it possibly being overly expensive, they only allow 6 month work visas...
WSOP is good if you are ok playing a mixture of what is available at different stakes and game types... The 2-5 and 5-10 cash games seem to be running often so if you are willing to work hard enough so you can get an edge over some of the regulars you should be ok. However, it is totally possible to build a decent roll on there, just not using SNG's...

Anyone want to come grind online in Budapest with me? Haha. I'm serious...

i understand that... but there arent enough players or games to make it worth it was my point


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its THE factor lol

volume is key. right now the US scene has literally no casual players. everyone thinks they are pros practicing bankroll management- when all theyre doing is clogging the micro stakes (and they never move up btw) and preventing anyone new from coming in lol

to be fair the payment processors and shady way the sites are run due to laws is another factor

but volume is god in online poker- and it just isnt there rn


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Can’t PM yet because the account is new but could you point me to which software and training sites you used and/or recommend?
Thanks