I've been searching the STT forum and can't seem to find anything on personal preferences when it comes to HUD Configuration. I'm curious as to what stats people are using during SNG's? I'm tweaking mine atm and would like to know what the general consensus is when it comes to SNG HUD displays?

I use vp/pfr/agg/steal/bb fold to steal/hands

and then for heads up I have it change it to add SBVP and BBVP. I can be more descriptive but I'm typing this on my phone.

I use vpip/pfr/agg/steal from sb/fold bb to steal/hands

There was a thread not long ago about HUD use fwiw.

meant to quote the person u quoted. sry

A HUD has hurt me many times. This was when I was misusing it though.

I was relying on it too much so a 30/6 I was 3 betting to early for example.

Don't be afraid to use the HUD but if your spider sense tingles and you feel otherwise to just go with your gut.

I really only focus on VPIP/PFR. I mean as long as you know the basic structure of an SNG you understand when to start pushing or folding. You don't need to rely on them 100%.

It doesn't get too complicated with VPIP and PFR. I'm sure at the nose bleeds the other stats will matter more. At the low to mid stakes it seems pretty straight forward.

I've had a few times where without my HUD and just my gut I do better. I feel like the HUD is like training wheels. After a while you can just picture what stats a certain player has.

All in all, it helps me most with 3 betting late. i do it more with a HUD and do get into trouble sometimes but it mos def helps with that.

You aren't going to have enough sample size on most players to use most of these stats.. just use VPIP/PFR/#hands. This will give you the basic overview of players and be simple and ergonomic enough for maximum multi-tableage. Remember, loose players do not ICM push. When they are AIPF with 5-10bb, they have it. Tight players are more likely ICM pushers, so be mindful of that. But just using vpip/pfr, you will get a good idea of who/when to go over the top

I agree with this part especially. After some initial play with VPIP/PFR/#hands i added more. With 10-20 tables it was impossible to actually gain more from more types of stats. Thus I chose to block players with < 200 hands to see if that gave me more of an edge. It didn't since 4-7 players was not showing at all on any given table and per table that is more important. Thus, less stats is more while MT, imo.

Color coding on the other hand is useful, and the article on how to color code certain stats based on another stat (PT3 forum) seems interesting, but haven't tried this yet. By now I use:

#hands White 0-100, Yellow +100, Red +200 (Sharscope notes on all red players here)
VPIP Red below 19, Yellow 20-40, Green 40+ (comments on these?)
PFR none today. Would love some insight on levels here.

It's also the dynamics between the VPIP and PFR that I would like to explore more (ref. article mentioned above) or maybe even other stats combined.

i am not sure if i understand your 3 points above correctly. would you mind to discribe a bit more in details? thx

I just opted to add fold to Steal/BB and Fold to Steal. Nice feature to have, but generally it just emphasizes with the VPIP/PFR stats. Thight, high fold %, loose, lower fold %.

I might change back or add other stats, but not sure which one will give me more insight on the spot and while MT.

Could anyone tell me my stats? Havent bought myself HUD yet, does HUD show me my own stats too? I play 6.50$ 9m on stars...and used to play 3.40$about a week ago. My SN is miumer. I think you should have somekind of sample of me when you play the 6.50s, because i play very much.

Different people have different preferences, this has been covered so many times on this forum:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...e-sngs-422576/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...notice-565227/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...layers-562871/

Hope this helps.

PT3 or HEM will of course have all your stats and your opponents stats filtered any way you want. Typically the HUD will only show your stats for each tournament and not your lifetime stats. The HUDs are extensively customizable tho. Sorry I play on Tilt so no stats on you.

this

fwiw i played in one sng with you.

Over 63 hands:
12/10/14

VPIP/PFR/? ?
Is this normal or should i improve something? Maybe VPIP is too low?

Guys,

I would extremly greatful if someone could explain how I could set one of these up please?

I installed pokerace I think it is called just played an STT and nothing came up. I linked it to my HH file nor did it show anything as the stt progressed. Do I need to run poker tracker / holdem manager alongside for it to work? I have only had expired trials of these.

Sorry for the de-rail and low content...

Thanks

Buy HEM or PT3 and read the instructions. Seriously, it's not that hard at all to set up given the instructions

I am seriously a computer dummy... so I do need one of them? I will make my decision tomorrow then which one to get.

Cheers captain.

Since SNGs are mostly a preflop game, I don't use Aggression Factor or Aggression %. If I need those, I pull up the pop-up window.

For my HUD I'm using: # hands, VPIP, PFR, 3 bet %, fold to 3 bet %

I guess the last 2 are sort of questionable, and I haven't heard of too many people who use them. I just find them nice to have. It's a lot easier to 3-bet all-in against someone when their PFR is high, and their "fold to 3 bet %" is also fairly high.

Never used a HUD cause I'm generally 20+ tabling. I dont feel like I'm lighting much money on fire, if at all. I cant see myself reading stats and comprehending them and then using them in the short time period I have to act.

Idk I might switch over and use one next year, I would imagine I would just throw VPIP, PFR, 3 bet % and some sort of steal %.

Suppose this could turn me from an average winner to one of the top guys at my stakes?

I have H.Manager, and at this moment I use the cash layout. It's fine, but 2 much information that I dont need.

So I will create a new layout with something like:
Name/Hands
VP$P/PFR/WTSD
Fold BB/Fold SB/Steal
3-bet/ Cbet Flop/ Fold to Cbet Flop

Also thinking to add a little more information about the SB.

Regarding the stat: "HU Limp fold", any1 knows if its refers to all the cases when the SB complete/limp and we Raise him, or only for the HU situations?

Yep, VPIP/PRR/Agg frequency

Based on that 1 sng, i would say that you played fine seeing as you cashed but it's impossible to judge based solely on 1 sng with ~60 hands. I recently just started playing 1 table sng's and over the last ~100 i've been running 16/13/46. However, it's difficult to determine when HUD stats are actually useful in 1 table turbo sng's as push/fold comes into play very quickly and it's usually more +ev to focus on ICM instead of stats. But hud stats are handy, they can help determine how wide a villain is shoving/calling.

Both have website/forum with pretty much all help you need to set it up. Both have also a trial period so you can figure out the one you like. Also in the forums of both huds you can find threads for basic setups for sng players (not to much stats etc).

So play a week with both if you want, but i suggest HM

Btw i play 6+0.50 sng's and i find the hud most useful for the early stages. It's great finding out the bad players at the table early on. Easy to mark out the really TAG players, and find out who aren't playing optimal. Mostly it will be a small hand sample, but being 50/3 or 6/6 over 30 hands also say allot imo.

Good early stage doesn't mean good SNG player btw, your gonna win or lose most with 5 or less players and post flop play.

yea, poker ace works alongside the older PT version, so if you have pokerace without PT running its completely useless. Both PT3 and HEM both have HUDs within their system, so if you're going to buy one of those, you dont need pokerace.

I was just thinking a lot about the "raise first" stat. Why don't people use this instead of PFR?

For example, let's say I'm in the BB and everyone folds around to the SB, who shoves all-in for 10BB. This is a pretty standard move, if he's a good player. A passive, casual player would probably fold most hands, but a reg will shove pretty wide from the SB. Anyway, for this situation the stat I always look at is "raise first from SB" - I don't use the "PFR from SB" stat, because that one will be skewed by the situations where a passive player just happened to wake up with AA in the SB and shoves all-in, regardless of the action before him.

So I'm starting to think that in general, if you only have a limited sample size on someone (maybe 200 hands), the positional "raise first" stats might give you a better indication of their style of play then their "PFR" stats. Am I on to something here?