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Old 09-12-2017, 05:27 PM   #1
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Besides folding river what did i do wrong

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    Poker Stars, $9.22 Buy-in (10/20 blinds, 3 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37829343

    CO: 3,041 (152.1 bb)
    BTN: 1,477 (73.9 bb)
    SB: 1,497 (74.9 bb)
    BB: 1,497 (74.9 bb)
    UTG+2: 1,497 (74.9 bb)
    MP1: 1,497 (74.9 bb)
    Hero (MP2): 1,497 (74.9 bb)
    MP3: 1,497 (74.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T A
    2 folds, Hero raises to 40, MP3 calls 40, CO folds, BTN calls 40, SB calls 30, BB calls 20

    Flop: (224) Q J K (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 175, MP3 calls 175, BTN calls 175, 2 folds

    Turn: (749) 3 (3 players)
    Hero bets 749, MP3 folds, BTN calls 749

    River: (2,247) 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets 530 and is all-in, BTN calls 510 and is all-in

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    Old 09-12-2017, 08:46 PM   #2
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    Re: Besides folding river what did i do wrong

    Betsizing is too big on both flop and turn.
    You just flopped the nuts and block some fd with your Tc as well, don't be so afraid of the few fd in relation to all the hands that caught a piece of that flop and are likely to call smaller bets but might well fold to big ones.

    If the title means you think you should've c/f river in retrospect cause you actually lost the hand: That'd be a disastrous decision.
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    Old 09-16-2017, 03:39 AM   #3
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    Re: Besides folding river what did i do wrong

    +1 to the above. Particularly on the turn - to get it in over two streets you are fine putting in somewhere between a quarter and a third of your stack, so about 400 would be plenty.

    IMHO you should go with bigger sizing pre-flop.
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    Old 09-19-2017, 05:57 PM   #4
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    Re: Besides folding river what did i do wrong

    So are we looking to get it in on all run outs that have only 3 clubs, and lose to the occasional flush..because we block one flush card?
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    Old 09-19-2017, 06:02 PM   #5
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    Re: Besides folding river what did i do wrong

    Not for all lines necessarily, but yeah, there really aren't many fd in relation to hands that hit the board in another way.
    edit: misread button is the one in the hand, not original flatter, so he has more fd, but still.
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    Old 09-20-2017, 01:58 AM   #6
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    Re: Besides folding river what did i do wrong

    I *think* ATo is a fold from MP in the first blind level. I haven't studied SNG opening ranges in a long time, but this hand strikes me as a likely fold.

    As others have said, there's no reason to bet the turn so large. There is < 2 PSB left and your hand is unlikely to be outdrawn. Milk them for smaller bets. The event of them a) having a flush draw, and b) the flush getting there, is actually pretty unlikely. Don't base any part of your decision around that happening.
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    Old 09-20-2017, 08:22 AM   #7
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    Re: Besides folding river what did i do wrong

    Quote:
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    I *think* ATo is a fold from MP in the first blind level. I haven't studied SNG opening ranges in a long time, but this hand strikes me as a likely fold.
    No and it's not close. Lots of ppl were able to beat 9m SnG with such nit opening ranges in the past, while it was possible cause the field sucks pretty hard, it was never the opt approach. With antes (recall 9m antes almost make 1.5bb extra !, so u can "steal" double the blinds with each raise) it's largely wrong.
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    Old 09-22-2017, 07:47 AM   #8
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    Re: Besides folding river what did i do wrong

    fold preflop
    flop sizing is perfect
    turn sizing is too big...go around 500
    never fold river
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    Old 09-29-2017, 02:50 AM   #9
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    Re: Besides folding river what did i do wrong

    Either fold pf or then raise higher. Your pf-raise is too small. Raise about 3x. I would bet turn a bit smaller, about 1/2 pot. This hand cannot be folded! We wanna stack off. The outcome is unlucky this time but we shouldn´t be results-oriented. We have the nuts and a blocker for the flush, so let´s milk Villain with draws, pairs, 2 pair, whatever...with this hand there is no fold, no getting out.
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