Lol the durrr-curtains chess match. I vaguely remember that.

Jennifer kindly linked the thread on twitter. It is quite a frenzy! http://archives2.twoplustwo.com/show...fpart=all&vc=1

Man it's an even easier call than I thought. I thought it was a button shove that went through the SB. Sheesh.

I wouldn't even think of folding, now or back then.

lacky confirmed non-wizard

I'll be in Vegas Sat night if anyone wants to go play a tourney or something. I pinged Irieguy. Old school STTF home game would be a blast.

Wasnt around back then. But when I read some of Gigabets posts later, I thought he was way ahead of his time. Maybe wrong about some things, but the approach was good.

Like his blockbet? post, he was essentially talking about future equity, which is a word that wasnt used at all when I started here. Or like he said in the interview, him suggesting minraising with 5BBs, if you use HRC you might know that there are a lot of spots where its the correct strategy.

I suspect the future pwn equity is a lot bigger in MTTs with a serious pay ladder that people care about - vs. ICM bots in a SNG. I feel like ICM probably already prices most of that in. But I could be wrong.

In any case this hand was already in the money and I'd happily bet a ton of money that no amount of pwn equity can make A9s a fold here.

How did gigabet's "$100 to $10,000" - or w/e it was - bet ever turn out?

If I remember right it was called a wash when neteller got seized, or one of those type events.

Ye he probably was a bit nutty, but also kinda genius.

Like I remember back in the day we had a reg at the 15s who was known for wierd plays and everyone one thought he was bad and on a heater. He went on to beat much higher stakes later as apparently some stuff he did was actually next level.

Actually thinking about it I think it was taking place on party poker and they pulled out of the US.

The only reason I remember at all is somehow I think I ended up refereeing or money holding or something. I ended up being involved, can't remember why.

I agree. He got me to think far more than I did before about chip position and table dynamics due to chip distribution. I still make playes that would be -ev in isolation but are plus ev big picture (I think so anyway).

+1. His posts got me thinking about poker on another level.

4 STTF alums playing the 1m triton tomorrow

hell yeah brother

Are we counting Bonomo or am I missing someone?

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Psyduck

My man

Dont remember psyduck, I was counting Dwan

I don't want to spam up the MTT forums because I'm sure they'll just yell at me. But does 200% ROI in soft live tourneys ($60-$150 buyin) seem unreasonable? I've been running pretty hot at Hollywood Park - and man even the regs who play every single tourney are very bad. And it just goes downhill from there.

My new plan is to semi-retire, live a cheap nomadic lifestyle and maybe pick up a little income playing poker in podunk places. So I don't need to break the bank, but a realistic idea of how much you can make in low stakes live MTTs would help. I'm still intimidated by cash but obviously I'll end up playing some. I've played cash in a few random casinos (Dawson City, Canada) and man was it soft. Cash in LA scares me though.

So just as a thought experiment - let's say you had a $150 tourney (150 entrants) with nothing but absolute novices. Like they spend most of their time reading the board, no idea about bet sizes, go broke on TPNK, etc. Basically my buddies in their home game that they won't invite me to anymore because I raise too much. What would the absolute max ROI be? Any guesses?

Not saying these guys are that bad. But they're pretty transparent post flop and way too loose preflop. And then when you get close to the bubble they tighten up waiting for AK, 99+ or something. A lot of the regs are perfectly happy to blind down to 2BBs. Some literally fall asleep at the table or read books or are on their phone. And most of the non-regs are worse. Just to get a feel.

One of the regs that I actually thought was decent called me from the BB with AQ with his 8BB stack, when I shoved J9s on the button into the two shorties. I thought his eyes were going to pop out of their sockets when he saw my hand. They just can't fathom shoving that light. They think shoving a decent stack into 8BBs effective is massively different than shoving with 8BBs. Why shove when you're not desperate? I made a joke about how that's my favorite hand and I always play it.

Another time I shoved my 8BB over a button open late. He thought for about 15 seconds then folded AJs face up. Ok then.

I know eventually they'll start calling me lighter but it's fun while it's lasting.

It's a bit of a live tell when the regs get sleepy after folding for 3 hours. Then they go into primal survival mode when they pick up the bullets and look like they've just snorted an entire bottle of adderall.

If you do play cash in Los Angeles or Las Vegas, please do not buy in for the ****ing minimum. There is no worse crime in the game of poker.

Suzzer I would say 200% could be achieved by the best MTT regs. I have no experience and am basing it on nothing in particular. 100-150% probably reasonable. I do know the best 2/5 regs make around $50/hr. I suspect grinding 1/2 in a podunk town would be >>>> hourly of playing the daily $100 MTT.

Thanks - that's good information about 2/5.

My main tourney at Hollywood Park is $120 to $140. 200% would be close to $50/hr considering the times I busto early. Lol maybe I just discovered an untapped gold mine. The nice thing about this tourney is that it's super soft when the Bike, Commerce or the Gardens are running some big tourney event - which last weeks and it seems like one of them is always running something.

Hollywood Park has a $560 today that I thought about playing. But if I made a deep run it would be during the Chiefs game and I'd be completely distracted.

Although maybe winrate per tourney is a better way to look at it - since it's not like I go immediately enter another one. Also sometimes I show up late - but that diminishes my ROI obviously.

I haven't had to re-enter in a while but it does happen obviously. This tourney has a one time add on that most don't buy up front - so I don't either. I like that structure - helps avoid having to re-enter. I haven't had so many chips yet that I didn't want the addon and even then I'm not sure if I should every turn it down. Like if you have 150k chips - is 15k chips for $60 more worth it? Maybe not.

One of the few aspects of poker I think I'm a natural at is the psychology part when it gets late in a tourney and everyone's sphincter tightens up - especially if I have a stack. And I'll be buddies with you as I'm fleecing you, always showing strong stuff. Yep - just catching cards! Are we in the money yet? Just hang on til that final table and let me steal your blinds, then we can chop. Oh you want to fight back by calling? Well now that you let me build this stack - you got one move - shove over my cbet or open shove. Good luck.

I did get this one Russian guy to my left who was having none of it though. I couldn't get a raise through him to save my life. I ended up making a good call with MP, but he got there anyway. So not the riskless way I wanted to chip up. Thankfully players like him are very rare at this tourney.

All I can really say is you likely wont lived long enough to ever figure out an accurate win rate playing one mtt per day. I'm massively profitable in mtts and I went 89 in a row once not cashing. Playing 6 per day on average this year I have gone 3 months now without hitting a new high profit wise, meaning I have less money than I did 3 months ago, after being in the top 5 to 10 players up to then in annual profits in mtts (On global poker).

If you really want to do it, do it. I've obviously taken that leap of faith before. But just know going a couple months without any decent crashes is entirely likely and you have to be mentally and financially prepared for it.

Edit-I just looked at sharkscope, haven't in a while, and I'm still 16th for the year, and if I added the $6500 I know sharkscope has missed I would be 8th. Hard to imagine after the last 3 month.