Hi there, i'm new to tournaments just recently started to try and figure out about icm. do u think i should have called? i think im burning a bit of icm if i call the reshove ?

ty in advance for ur help.

Its just a fold, dont think CO has a real r/f range

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Shove yourself and you don’t run into this issue.

Ty, I was thinking that. It is a weird line to take with 88 but I guess that's what's this level is all about

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Im not sure of that tbh.

Talking at the table he said if I shoved he would have folded. But I honestly don't belive that and I can't see enough value on the call. Cause if I loose to both I'm in very bad shape cause the reshove is so big

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Shove the first time for sure. CO has a r/f range, but if he doesn't that's not really a problem.

Why don’t you believe him? Calling it off with 88 against you would be very, very bad.

Why can’t CO have a raise/fold range with hands weaker than 88, or did you mean no raise/fold range to the BU?

Shove pre. Tons of dead money after CO 3x and you still crush both ranges four handed. You're also the biggest stack so you put CO under a ton of pressure on the bubble, even though I don'think that matters too much in a $1,- SnG. At this BI CO can definitely still steal with a 3x as well, it's not like he's gonna be the most thinking player.
It's gonna cost you around 35% of your stack if you call BU and lose, so you're still going to be in an okay spot ; 3rd place, very close to 2nd and still miles in front of 4th. You can't just fold premium hands like this because you want to hold on to your stack, that is definitely still vulnerable in this situation. If you get shoved on a couple of times and don't want to call + don't shove light enough yourself then the stacks will even a lot more than you would want when everyone is this shallow.

Comfortable shove first time through I believe. You put so much pressure on CO and he should fold many hands that are beating you. Of the two ranges you're up against BTN has the stronger range at this point and AK will still do fine against him.

When CO calls your shove he should have you in pretty bad shape. Not crunched the numbers but would expect that CO should fold AQ, call with AK and something around QQ+ so you are at best flipping in those cases but I'd expect these hands to form a relatively small part of this opening range so you;re getting him to fold a huge percentage of the time. Even in those cases you only end up 4/4 when BTN wins and you can't beat the CO

Def shove preflop

I also think shove PF is the best play, but I'm questioning now if it is the best play considering CO would call with way more hands than he should.

Would it still better to push PF or in this case a conservative fold might be ok?

You have AK with 20bb eff stacks. I'm shipping any day of the week.

Even as played, folding is absolutely horrible. Should still call cause odds are too good, and did I mention you have AK ?