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Old 08-14-2018, 12:48 PM   #1
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6 max Hypers

Looking for training sites/threads/etc on 6max hypers. I know it is pretty specific but I have only found one and it is fairly expensive.
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Old 09-15-2018, 04:35 PM   #2
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Re: 6 max Hypers

raise your edge dot com have imo the best course for 6max hypers ($89)
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:06 PM   #3
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Re: 6 max Hypers

You don't need a training site to teach you how to crush hyper turbos...
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:07 PM   #4
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Re: 6 max Hypers

Takes about 4-5 hours of study on your own... I can run some things by you if you want...
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Old 09-21-2018, 07:30 AM   #5
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Re: 6 max Hypers

4-5h to crush hypers ? I am just purely speculating here, but I assume it's more than that. It makes sense that it would be less time than Turbo or normal speed but not 4h. But if you have a 4h guide that does that I'm interested as well.

What's a typical 'crushing' ROI for hypers ?
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Old 09-24-2018, 03:11 AM   #6
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Re: 6 max Hypers

I'm dead serious... I could teach you a winning strategy in about 4-5 hours of class time.

Granted I'm not saying you would never have to study in the future or never work on your game or run the math on certain spots, that's always going to be ongoing no matter what format of poker you play. Hyper turbos honestly don't require alot of study to become a winning player. But people don't study in the form of reviewing their hand histories or tweaking their game. Also I don't they spend much time ironing out their strategy to begin with. I'd say 4-5 up front study/teaching to give you the tools to succeed. Then ongoing study and review on your own going forward, but that would be on you, and you should be doing that anyways.

Maybe i could grind some for you over skype and you can watch me play and we can talk about spots and strat. Would be kinda fun and helpful for me as well.

I'd say 12-15% would be a decent roi for hyper turbos. they tend to be "higher" variance. I've read people claiming to have an ITM of 40-45%, which is totally believable. However, an ITM % is a very misleading stat and makes you sound better than you really are, partially due to fact that an ITM % SOUNDS higher and BETTER than a true ROI %. Also people think that ITM% and ROI are the same thing sometimes. Which isn't true.

Always go by ROI when measuring your game and be aware of your STD DEV as well. Get a good sample size in and run the numbers to get your STD DEV and your estimated EV using your true ROI. Also make a formula in Excel and adjust your ROI given how many tables your may add or take away.

I'll also say that 4-5 hours of class time to crush hyper turbos is for someone that has some basic knowledge of poker and some hours under their belt. But honestly they are not that hard to figure out.

Also it may take you longer to study simply because you may not know WHAT to study pertaining to hyper turbos. But if I were to teach you, I'd have the information you would need to know, so you wouldn't necessarily be wasting time figuring stuff out on your own, so theres that...

Not trying to sound like a jerk, but the fact that you are asking how to crush hypers or need a training site, tells me that you probably don't have alot of poker experience in general. Which is totally fine. But most players that are decent players in other formats wouldn't need a training site to adjust to hyper turbos. Or they would be able to figure them out on their own without a training site.

It's my honest opinion that paying $$$ for a membership on a training site for hyper turbos is a scam. I could see paying that much for other formats of poker such as cash or tournaments or maaaybe even SNG's, but not for hypers. Save your money on a training and buy few math programs instead. $200-$400 should get you everything you need, and that includes a hand tracker/hud as well.

I know this probably sounds negative, but I'm honestly not trying to be a jerk here... So I apologize if it's coming across like that.

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Old 09-24-2018, 08:51 PM   #7
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Re: 6 max Hypers

6max hypers are total rubbish. play literally anything else
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Old 09-24-2018, 10:03 PM   #8
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6max hypers are total rubbish. play literally anything else
Care to give an explanation of why you feel that way?

My next question then would be... What was your sample size lol and were you multi tabling?

Did you work out your STD DEV as well and how did it help you adjust your game and bankroll/stakes?
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:18 AM   #9
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Re: 6 max Hypers

Low ROI. Mentally agonizing(This is subjective). Massive break even periods. Not a ton of games running in US.
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Old 09-26-2018, 10:35 AM   #10
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Low ROI. Mentally agonizing(This is subjective). Massive break even periods. Not a ton of games running in US.
How is this different from other forms of poker?
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Old 10-03-2018, 12:54 AM   #11
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How is this different from other forms of poker?
Hey Man I'm a winning MTT reg whos looking to transition to Spins. I am having trouble deciding what format is best but Hypers honestly interest me the most. Any tips about how to go about studying/ building a strategy to beat these?? Im up for discord if you'd rather discuss there my username is Cruts#6093
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Old 10-04-2018, 03:22 PM   #12
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Re: 6 max Hypers

12-15% is decent?

Show me one player with over 10k of volume with that ROI..

I'd say mid to high stakes you can be looking at 3.5-5% ROI if you're a crusher, probably at most 9.5% in micro/small stakes
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:33 PM   #13
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12-15% is decent?

Show me one player with over 10k of volume with that ROI..

I'd say mid to high stakes you can be looking at 3.5-5% ROI if you're a crusher, probably at most 9.5% in micro/small stakes
Yeah... That's mid to high stakes.

There are so many variables when estimating an ROI that someone can make. However playing 4 or less tables they can make close to that ROI if they are good enough.
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Old 10-08-2018, 07:33 PM   #14
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Hey Man I'm a winning MTT reg whos looking to transition to Spins. I am having trouble deciding what format is best but Hypers honestly interest me the most. Any tips about how to go about studying/ building a strategy to beat these?? Im up for discord if you'd rather discuss there my username is Cruts#6093
I've heard of discord but we can use skype if you have that. Send me a PM.
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