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11-14-2018 , 03:08 PM
So just recently switched over to the sit and go world. I got the trial version of ICMizer and barely getting the feel for it.
So this is a 3$ sit and go. I have run the hand through ICM $ EV and
chip EV and at this point in the sit and go I assume we should be worried about chip EV because were still quite aways from the money.
The reason i bring this up is that its has positive expectation for chip EV but negative EV for ICM. Which is more prevalent here.
Sit and go noob
spadez

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NL Holdem $200(BB)
SB ($1510) [VPIP: 16% | PFR: 16% | AGG: 18.2% | 3-Bet: 9.1% | Hands: 25]
BB ($4985) [VPIP: 38.7% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 6.9% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 31]
UTG ($1357) [VPIP: 24% | PFR: 8% | AGG: 27.3% | 3-Bet: 12.5% | Hands: 25]
HJ ($1978) [VPIP: 16% | PFR: 12% | AGG: 50% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 25]
CO ($3040) [VPIP: 29.2% | PFR: 20.8% | AGG: 17.6% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 25]
HERO ($630) [VPIP: 24.8% | PFR: 19.6% | AGG: 31.2% | 3-Bet: 7.9% | Hands: 181347]

Dealt to Hero: 6 5

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $630 (allin), SB Raises To $1510 (allin), BB Calls $1310

Flop ($3650): 3 9 9

Turn ($3650): 3 9 9 6

River ($3650): 3 9 9 6 2

Spoiler:

SB shows: K J
BB shows: A A

BB wins: $3650
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11-14-2018 , 06:13 PM
If this is a Single Table SNG then forget chipEV and asses either $ICM or Future Game Simulation.
I don't like ICMizer either, much prefer Holdem Resources Calculator, try it for free
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11-15-2018 , 06:45 AM
In any kind of Tournament, which doesnt have a winner-take-it-all structure you want to consider $ev instead of Cev. The bigger, the less important $ev becomes at the start and you can pretty much Cev in the beginning.

But in a SNG, the ICM-factor is already very high in the first hand, imagine you are on BB and SB goes all-in in the first hand. Based on Cev you only need 50% to call, but in $ev you need 56.5%.

Now there are some flaws in the $ev calculation. One would be that short-stacks, such as yours, are overvalued. So while your calculator may consider this a fold, it may still be a shove. I certainly would shove, because the hand is way too sexy.
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11-15-2018 , 11:29 AM
Interesting, this concept of $EV is new to me so trying to understand this is important. It kind of boggled me that the calculator considered this a fold.
One of the key reasons i think is that i plugged the BB range as calling off pretty wide since BB was major chip leader.

But agreed hand was too sexy so i shoved it in.lol
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