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.00 PokerStars 9-Man Turbo KO - K9s 3BBs on the bubble .00 PokerStars 9-Man Turbo KO - K9s 3BBs on the bubble

10-29-2018 , 02:01 PM
Hello, can anyone tell me how this is a fold?

I know it's bubble etc, but this is Turbo and I'm the shortest stack, with 3BBs , 4 handed , next hand I'm on the Big Blind and everything

http://hands.holdemresources.net/?id=hi40z9upj0t0

PokerStars - 100/200 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 6.48 BB (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 42)
Hero (CO): 3.27 BB
BTN: 54.24 BB (VPIP: 23.73, PFR: 13.28, 3Bet Preflop: 5.49, Hands: 1,393)
SB: 3.5 BB (VPIP: 17.07, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 42)

4 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has 6 K

Hero raises to 3.14 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 3.14 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (8.29 BB, 2 players) 4 6 7

Turn: (8.29 BB, 2 players) K

River: (8.29 BB, 2 players) 8
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10-29-2018 , 06:13 PM
Hi,

I d fold as well, and it is indeed a fold, The hand is not bad for the amount of Blind u have, however you are the first to act, and after you still go SB/BB both with a very short stack as well + the Chip Leader who most likely is just gonna put them all in playing from the Button, So yeah bad push on your part,
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10-30-2018 , 11:37 PM
I dont quite understand this calculator.

BTN has a shove range of 100% if you fold, but somehow SB has a shove range too. Maybe it overrates your equity as a result.
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10-30-2018 , 11:43 PM
It shows different options for different players. I'm on the CO, so that's all we care about, CO openshove, ignore the rest, just click that little + next to CO to see the scenario

ps: its actually K6s not K9s XD
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10-31-2018 , 12:23 AM
ICM calculators always overvalue very short stacks. The one used looks at just this hand and in this hand SB will lose chips, getting him lower than you.

You will blind out first, but the calculator doesnt calculate that far. He only calculates until after the hand, where if you fold you end up with more chips than SB giving you a higher fold EQ than you actually have.

You would need to find a calculator than can calculate an equlibirium for like 8 hands or more to know the "actual" EVs.

I myself would shove this hand.
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10-31-2018 , 12:09 PM
Riiight, I guess i need to learn how to use Future Game Simulation
I ran it in through HRC changing ICM into FGS, using default settings (depth = 1) because I dont know how to use it, and it showed this:

http://hands.holdemresources.net/?id=1v35x4ibuwqi2

ps: higher depth seems to be widening my CO pushing range
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