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Old 08-28-2017, 03:29 PM   #1
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$15 hyper: Facing donks from rec

Villain is a bit wild and very aggressive with his donking strategies. I've seen him donk good top pairs but also pure air on bad boards. Flop size I think is awkward, looking back I think I like going 4x+ on flop to have a psb~ on turn and am curious about what you guys think there.

I don't think the queen hits very much of his turn range but his sizing suggests otherwise.



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    Old 08-28-2017, 07:11 PM   #2
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    Re: $15 hyper: Facing donks from rec

    i think you said it all already

    4x flop to jam turn sounds good

    turn sizing does say otherwise, you heavily block the main str8 drw (910) and some combo draws like 9Jdd or 59dd.....so he kind of has to be a special kind of crazy for you to be good on turn after he bombs most of his stack like that...but in game i call as well, just saying
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    Old 08-28-2017, 07:30 PM   #3
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    Re: $15 hyper: Facing donks from rec

    Against this type of player I am probably raising flop so I can shove turn. You are definitely getting called by an 8, draws and putting hands like 54 and 75 in tough spots. If he luckily hits the turn card then that is unlucky and just have to take it. However an overpair on a low board like this has a lot of bad turn cards so you want to get as much money in on the flop while you are likely ahead. As played the 6 river is a good card, ofc he could have a queen but he could be spazzing with an 8. Otherwise against crazy donks like this I treat any pp lower than JJ as a set mining hand as against these players playing for sets is highly +ev and allows you to play less guessy when an overcard comes.
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    Old 08-30-2017, 09:25 PM   #4
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    Re: $15 hyper: Facing donks from rec

    I kinda like your size, if it is to induce spazz. Would really need to know villains perception on you though. Because if he is wild and assumes you are capable of playing back and your sizing looks exactly like it could also be air. You might get him to call and bluff every "good" turn which there are many.

    It is much to ask of a rec though. Id call river as played. The only reasonable hand is a Queen, and if he made the flop play with a queen he could also do the rest with air.

    This is really though for me because Im the type of guy who would do villains line with air against some regs. Let alone, the question whether your line is even optimal. But vs someone like described villain, I wouldnt be surprised if thats ~optimal.
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    Old 08-30-2017, 11:19 PM   #5
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    Re: $15 hyper: Facing donks from rec

    Thanks for the replies guys.

    Ronny because he's a rec I'd imagine he just keeps to his strategy and doesn't adjust it much. Flop size I think is bad looking back, it definitely wasn't done to induce and I think on this board I get quite enough action from his non air hands to be ok with making a larger size. We were both just at a stack and a half each and I was clicking a bunch when this hand happened.

    I think your point of if he has a bare queen he can have random air is great, not that he will have either with much of a frequency at this point but still relevant.

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    Old 08-31-2017, 03:26 AM   #6
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    Re: $15 hyper: Facing donks from rec

    I think i would have jammed F with 99 and also TT not only for protection but also i think that we get more value from his strong 8x and FD, maybe some A6 sometimes, our jam looks bluffy and i've seen a lot of spots where i raise F, jam pot T and they get scared and show/fold an 8 or a FD and i get only one street of value...the downside of this is that he doesn't call F with hands like Q3 and other hands with so little equity

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    Old 09-01-2017, 05:51 AM   #7
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    Re: $15 hyper: Facing donks from rec

    Wish he hd Q2.

    Yes its probably to much for a rec, but its a nice set-up for it.
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    Old 09-01-2017, 03:13 PM   #8
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    these spots get a bit hairy when those "safe" cards peel. shouldnt hit V's donk/calling range at all unless Qx dd, but with this line i think there is a great chance he just gets in any diamond draw on the flop.

    The turn lead is so scary and hard to make after u raise his flop bet but its also a "safe" card. def not folding river if calling turn. i atleast hope his q3 was soooted to justify the defend a lil

    after re-reading ur op we are in the same camp so it all depends on villains frequencies/tendencies I guess. if he ever donk leads a bare 6 or 8 we are in fabulous shape so its hard to find a fold here.
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    Old 09-05-2017, 08:33 AM   #9
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    Re: $15 hyper: Facing donks from rec

    Let me guess. AlphaZone?
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