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Old 06-23-2008, 01:41 PM   #251
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It is only 10% vig if you take out $20 at a time. Realistically it is 2% at most and usually a lot less.
By "a lot less" I guess you mean .67% minimum, since the max. allowed to withdraw at a time is $300 AFAIK.

What I think is really silly is when you see waitors out at bars during their off hours and they tip like 30-50% and always treat the waitor way too nice and take extra special care of them. My little brother does this sh*t and it's stupid as hell. He "knows the pain of the waitors", and so he blows a lot of money that he doesn't have on some random waitor. WTF? It's like after 1 week as a waitor he had this mentality. And I've seen it in other former waitors, too. They have to show everyone at the table how righteous they are by making your 20% tip look like sh*t.
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:44 PM   #252
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If you are poor and have a drinking problem you want to maximize the amount you can consume so you should be drinking at home where beers are more in the $1-$1.25 range rather then at a bar where drinks are $3+. You can get considerably more drinking done that way.


So essentially poor people should never be allowed to go out.
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:46 PM   #253
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By "a lot less" I guess you mean .67% minimum, since the max. allowed to withdraw at a time is $300 AFAIK.
I have never seen a machine that only allows $300. Machines that only have twenties max out at $600. Machines that have larger denominations max out at between $800-1500.
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:49 PM   #254
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So essentially poor people should never be allowed to go out.
Painting with too broad a brush, IMO.

Poor alcoholics should never be allowed to go out drinking.
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:50 PM   #255
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So essentially poor people should never be allowed to go out.
No. They should just go out less and then when they do go out they can afford to tip properly. It is not like the difference between a bad tip and an average tip is going to kill anyone. As for travel if $30 matters then no they should not be going on the trip.
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:59 PM   #256
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So anyone who wants to go to Vegas but also only wants to spend $60 or $70 a night for their hotel should not be allowed to go to Vegas.
Basically we're saying that nobody should be allowed to stay at the Imperial Palace [among other hotels].
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:04 PM   #257
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Anyhoo, this is a bit of a GBCW. I've been meaning to quit posting at 2+2 for a while, and this seems like the right time--On Top! With a few exceptions, this site is populated by a bunch of nitty, cheap, virginal, peckerwood, gaylord computer nerds. Have fun clipping coupons, playing WoW, and sucking off your dormmates, you unbelievable losers. Peace!!
I'm glad I made it to here. This thread was tough to plough through, but it was worth it. Is this post his way of asking for a ban?
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:06 PM   #258
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I do not understand cheap people.
Knowing what nits most of OOT is, I would say you probably did not hit your target audience with this. But let me read and see...
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:09 PM   #259
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I have never seen a machine that only allows $300. Machines that only have twenties max out at $600. Machines that have larger denominations max out at between $800-1500.
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No. They should just go out less and then when they do go out they can afford to tip properly. It is not like the difference between a bad tip and an average tip is going to kill anyone. As for travel if $30 matters then no they should not be going on the trip.
god i love you henry. it's like you don't even understand that the tip is supposed to be for services rendered, not to prove what a baller you are.

and the ATM thing is pretty lol
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:09 PM   #260
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So anyone who wants to go to Vegas but also only wants to spend $60 or $70 a night for their hotel should not be allowed to go to Vegas.
Basically we're saying that nobody should be allowed to stay at the Imperial Palace [among other hotels].
Well no because normally the gap between the Imperial Palace and the cheap hotels and the better ones is not $15/night. I don't stay at the MGM so I don't know what the normal rate is but I figure it is in the $150-170 range. If someone choose to stay at the Imperial Palace to save $80-100/night that is fine. I wouldn't do it but I can understand money being tight and $100/night times two or three nights is a few hundred dollars. In this case though because of a promotion they are getting way more than $30 worth of upgrade for a relatively insignificant sum. If $30 means that much to someone then maybe they are not really financially in a place where they should be travelling.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:11 PM   #261
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people who skim and save like this over a lifetime end up with quite a bit more money in the end (relatively speaking) than people in similar financial circumstances who are more free with their money.

do some quick math and see
Yeah except for some reason, people willing to spend money also spend their time on doing other things like in some cases making more money. So they may spend more, but they may also make more too.

There are very few anally cheap people who are rich.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:13 PM   #262
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So to anyone for whom $30 actually means something they simply shouldn't travel.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:19 PM   #263
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Machines that only have twenties max out at $600. Machines that have larger denominations max out at between $800-1500.
I can only take out I think $100 24/hrs at a non-network ATM. Something stupid like that. Most of the time the limiting factor isn't the machine, it's the issuing bank's debit card limits.

Anyway, the grocery store thing is a good solution, but there's an ATM in a McDonalds on the way to the bar I go to all the time and a my bank ATM about a 2 blocks the other way. I'm not going to drag my friends 2 blocks out of the way to save $3. However, if I'm alone, I'll never use the McDonalds ATM.

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Basically we're saying that nobody should be allowed to stay at the Imperial Palace [among other hotels].
Also poor people shouldn't be allowed to go to bars. Or out to eat. Maybe we could make like a wall around where they live and just keep them there.


markksman, also, thanks for the update on your browsing habits. I WAS ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT
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There are very few anally cheap people who are rich.
Every rich person I know in real life would be seen as hilariously cheap by you and Henry. Millionaires but drive a Camry, etc.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:22 PM   #264
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So to anyone for whom $30 actually means something they simply shouldn't travel.
I don't think they should. What is the point? If someone is so cheap / broke that going from the IP to MGM for $30 is not a good decision what is he going to do in Vegas? There are so many times you can go watch the water fountains and pirate show. It is not like I'm saying if you can afford a $400/night room you shouldn't travel. $30 is fairly insignificant and the two hotels are not even comparable.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:28 PM   #265
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Henry,

It's a budget and some people like to stick to it on a vacation. Hell some people(IE me) even enjoy budgeting their time and money.

I know that for the rest of my life I'll me making a pittance compared to what a lot of ballers on this board make, but that does not mean I can't manage my money well and find extra cash here and there and plan things out well and still have a good time with my spare time.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:30 PM   #266
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I don't think they should. What is the point? If someone is so cheap / broke that going from the IP to MGM for $30 is not a good decision what is he going to do in Vegas? There are so many times you can go watch the water fountains and pirate show. It is not like I'm saying if you can afford a $400/night room you shouldn't travel. $30 is fairly insignificant and the two hotels are not even comparable.
i forget what the house edge on blackjack is but let's assume it to be 5%, which is high. now let's assume our Cheap Nit Busto SubHuman is playing $5/hand blackjack. Thirty dollars is an extra 120 hands of blackjack.

The funny part is that I am wasteful with $ and never budget at all, but this is a complete misunderstanding of how most people operate. who the hell cares how nice your room is if you're going to do nothing but sleep there?
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:38 PM   #267
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So as of one minute ago he was viewing this thread. Hi sammy!

Also, I'm starting to doubt that Henry17 is a real person. Maybe it just seems that way cuz he's Canadian.

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Old 06-23-2008, 02:49 PM   #268
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Maybe some people don't make as much as you and the "being cheap" saves a significant amount of money?
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:54 PM   #269
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OP coming across as a huge d-bag here. And WTF with the restaurant where he works? $6 bucks for a burrito plus $2 for each additional filler? $3 charge for chips and salsa? jeezus h cheerist.
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:19 PM   #270
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I have never seen a machine that only allows $300. Machines that only have twenties max out at $600. Machines that have larger denominations max out at between $800-1500.
The $300 limit is commonly imposed by your bank account. This is to reduce risk in cases of theft. I know my bank set the limit at $310 or so, $300 to cash out, and up to $10 in ATM fees. You could set this limit higher at most banks, but the machine might have its own limits as well.
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:25 PM   #271
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What is the wage for serving staff in the US?
Is it really so low they need tips to survive?
I used to work a crap job for minimum wage, helping out rude customers, and never ever got a tip...This means i never ever tip, even when i spend $50+ in a bar/resturant.
I am quite worried about travelling in the US, i won't have much spare money to spend, will i be forced to tip in most places?
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:27 PM   #272
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I have never seen a machine that only allows $300. Machines that only have twenties max out at $600. Machines that have larger denominations max out at between $800-1500.
You are so muthphukkin baller that it is ridiculous. I wish I had the moniez like you have.
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:32 PM   #273
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Is it really so low they need tips to survive?
Yes, definitely. (yes I think it's a ridiculous custom)

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I am quite worried about travelling in the US, i won't have much spare money to spend, will i be forced to tip in most places?
Yes. Budget between 15% - 20% for bars and restaurants. Otherwise, it depends on the type of activities you have planned.
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:35 PM   #274
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OP coming across as a huge d-bag here. And WTF with the restaurant where he works? $6 bucks for a burrito plus $2 for each additional filler? $3 charge for chips and salsa? jeezus h cheerist.
QFT

$10 for a ****ing burrito? Does it have shaved truffles on it or something?
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:48 PM   #275
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All - FWIW I don't think he was trying to imply that HE would be spitting in your salad. But he stating that it's a fact of life in the service industry that they will do these little acts of defiance and grossness if you mess with them on their perception of what you should tip them or if you are just outright rude.
This means that servers can do such things to you if you are rude to them even in a non-tipping environment. Kind of a good idea to be nice and polite to the people handling your food imo. Those who don't think such behavior happens to customers who are pricks aren't living in the real world.


To those who say that they ONLY tip for services rendered and it doesn't have anything to do with looking like a douche: I'm really surprised you can't see that you pretty much are doing exactly what is expected by the societal standards around you.
If I didn't know anyone else who put some little pointy piece of silk into a not around his neck and let it drape there I would never think to do of it myself just because it seemed like a cool idea. I wear a tie in certain settings because it's kind of expected.
Stuff like that. Hope you get the idea.
It wasn't your invention or idea to leave roughly 20% behind for the server. But you do it anyway because most everyone else around you is doing it too.
It's also why you are supposed to be kind of 'secretive' in a weird way about it. You don't typically tell the waiter, "Keep an extra $7 for yourself and bring me back the rest."
The customary way to do it is you give him the money and they bring you the change and then you take the money that you are going to leave behind and place it on the table [typically not customary to hand it to the person for example].
Also customary if the bill is just right for the tip [say it's a $33.50 bill and you are handing him $40] and when he says, "I'll be back with your change" you then say, "We're good. Thanks." And when you hand it to him like this he says, "Thank you" but he doesn't go diving right into the checkbook to see exactly how much you gave him.
There are lots of ways of going about this stuff that are considered the acceptable way and too much straying from this ends up being pretty douchey.

If you based it truly on services rendered and didn't care what was acceptable then after you got your awesomely cooked steak you would go back to the kitchen and try to find the cook and slip him an extra $5. But people just don't do that typically because that isn't the accepted way of going about it.

You are all pretty much following society's standards for this stuff and to think you are just doing this on your own over and over again and that it has nothing to do with what everybody else around you does is pretty ignorant I think.
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